| GrumpyOldMan0001 | looks more Pikelet like |
| will95 | so i have a taz printer and the board connected, currently im trying to figure out how to program the board. What do i need to use to program it and what files do i need for it to work the way it needs to |
| GrumpyOldMan0001 | marlin? |
| kthx | marlin is firmware with acceleration and lookahead to avoid accelerating up and down for evey vertex. It is http://reprap.org/wiki/Marlin and downloadable at https://github.com/ErikZalm/Marlin also downloadable preconfigured for RAMPS 1.3-1.4 at: https://github.com/jmil/Marlin/zipball/RAMPS_v1.3-1.4_1/16thStepping. |
| joem__ | repetier? |
| kthx | repetier is a host/firmware combination. The host makes a nice plater app even if not used as a host. Great G-code preview with realistic extrusion dimensions. Works seamlessley with Slic3r and SFACT. Slicing from host works.. http://reprap.org/wiki/Repetier-Host and http://reprap.org/wiki/Repetier-Firmware and is also closed source after version 0.91 |
| GrumpyOldMan0001 | will95: you need the above firmeare |
| GrumpyOldMan0001 | firmware.... and arduino software |
| will95 | Thank you, dose the aurdino eviromental have the aurdino software in it? and is that the only 2 things i need? from the manuel site im looking at it has multiple diffrent files so i just want to make sure |
| ramkamx | has any1 tried lpfrg.com ? |
| Will___ | Hey Guys, I need help. I have both an printrboard and ramps 1.4 not working at all. |
| mastag25 | ? |
| ramkamx | they claim 0.5 micron Z resolution and 17 on X/Y |
| Will___ | The printrboard is getting real hot and motors not moving. |
| mastag25 | oh which |
| mastag25 | Ramis |
| mastag25 | ramkamx |
| ramkamx | https://www.lpfrg.com/product/creatr-hs/ |
| mastag25 | damn |
| mastag25 | 66lbs |
| ramkamx | 27x27x18 cm builds @ 1800eu looks nice, but any1 has tried it ? |
| ramkamx | mastag25: yeah the frame is big extruded beams, heavy |
| Artesian | that means it can go fast |
| ramkamx | which is not bad for vibration |
| Artesian | and is very sturdy |
| ramkamx | they say print speeds up to 300mm/s |
| Artesian | unless you need to move it a lot, it's a very good thing |
| Artesian | yep, heavy frame printers can do that |
| Artesian | if they're tuned REALLY well |
| terramir | that's like about two grand you can build one yourself much cheAPER AND LEARN SOMETHING IN THE PROCESS |
| Artesian | whats 2100 euros? |
| Artesian | like 2700 dollars |
| Artesian | definitely MB pricepoint |
| ramkamx | terramir: MB ? |
| Artesian | indeed terra, indeed |
| terramir | oops caps |
| ramkamx | err. Artesian MB ? |
| Artesian | Do not speak the name of the evildoers |
| Artesian | bane of all that is open source and good in the world |
| terramir | does that thing have a heated chamber? |
| Artesian | MaquerBoot |
| ramkamx | terramir: yep, can do that too :-) |
| Will___ | Can anyone help with printrboards? |
| Artesian | BOOOO |
| Artesian | curses and sickness be upon them |
| ramkamx | ah MB :-) |
| ramkamx | the guy who sold open source |
| Artesian | just treat the name like voldemort and you're good to go here |
| Artesian | ^^^ |
| terramir | hmmm printrboards are kinda weak sauce |
| Artesian | now you get it |
| Will___ | I know, I did not buy it, just tring to fix it for some one else. |
| terramir | if it doesn't the build volume does not mean size of print |
| terramir | without a heated chamber unless using PLA plastic the max size is usually 4x4 and that's streching it |
| terramir | inches so 10x10 cm |
| terramir | hmmm put heatsinks on stepper chips |
| terramir | and on processor and put a fan on it might help |
| terramir | but it getting real hot might mean a short i.e. defective board |
| terramir | or a cold soldered mosfet point |
| Will___ | No way to fix it |
| terramir | mosfet point yes short not sure |
| mastag25 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/5no4yrqi6bpjzx2/faceofboe.JPG |
| mastag25 | this is going to look sick after some acetone vapor |
| terramir | where exactly is it getting hot |
| Will___ | Main chip, y pololu |
| A2_ | mutley_: you got a pic of a Delrin printed part? |
| terramir | not really pololus |
| Will___ | sorry A9 something chips |
| terramir | hmmmm I dunno crappy relow job crappy pcb not enough copper maybe |
| terramir | how long has he had it |
| NETio | who is printing delrin? |
| terramir | delrin printing that's some sick shit |
| terramir | even more dangerous than nylon |
| terramir | hell nylon is safew if the temp doesn't run away on you |
| Will___ | Yea, the heat is mostly coming from the y chip and I have nothing plugged but the usb. |
| NETio | who needs acetone vapor? https://www.dropbox.com/s/77b6xj1opohpuwk/Photo%20Jun%2023%2C%2012%2012%2019%20AM.jpg |
| terramir | is it being recognized |
| ramkamx | yay, printing acetal :-) |
| terramir | acetal really dang |
| NETio | nylon isn't dangerous unless it pyrolyzes and produces HCN |
| NETio | any burning themoplastic, even PLA, is pretty nasty |
| ramkamx | but i'm not sure it's a good idea, you wont get the strength you expect because of delamination issues |
| NETio | but things like Polycarbonate and Delrin produce nasty fumes when melted |
| NETio | PTFE is ultra-bad |
| Computer_Barf | ramkamx |
| ramkamx | makes the part unpredictable (or hard do predict), -> eg you lower your expectations -> useless |
| NETio | even though it's a thermoplastic they don't really melt it much in industry |
| Computer_Barf | hey i was previously brady2600. |
| ramkamx | Computer_Barf: yes ? |
| ramkamx | hey |
| terramir | nylon if printed properly should give you twice the strength of abs easy, but the temp needs to be stable and properly adjusted |
| terramir | but don't even think of printing bigger pieces without a heated chamber will cool to far down |
| terramir | abs got a glass temp of 105 what's nylon like 150 |
| NETio | terramir: I've printed some pretty big things in Nylon since I removed my chamber |
| NETio | nylon has a surprisingly low glass temp |
| terramir | how low |
| NETio | 47C |
| terramir | how it doesn't soften un der boiling water |
| terramir | that's 100C |
| NETio | glass transition doesn't mean melting point or softening point |
| NETio | it's the point where it stops behaving like a solid and transitions to a rubber-like state |
| NETio | nylon is already pretty flexible |
| terramir | true that but it's tuff as all crap too |
| terramir | what temp have peeps been printing nylon at? |
| terramir | and how much buffer to danger zone |
| terramir | anyone? |
| A2_ | ramkamx: What's the surface finish like with Delrin, got any pics? |
| NETio | The RMax never ceases to amaze me. This would've literally be an impossible print on my i2. http://imgur.com/a/oQAPB |
| ramkamx | A2_: never tried delrin |
| A2_ | miss read you then... |
| ramkamx | ABS (or my power cables that are burning) are giving me enough headaches like that |
| ramkamx | A2_: yeah, probably. tried nylon for structural stuff. Failure always happens on interlayers; i'd expect the same or worse with delrin |
| terramir | Netio |
| NETio | yes? |
| terramir | why would that have been impossible |
| NETio | ramkamx: How hot did you print nylon? |
| NETio | terramir: That's tiny and required lots of support. When I owned my i2 slic3r didn't even have support material |
| NETio | also had lots of z-wobble |
| terramir | most structiural nylon parts are solid |
| terramir | hmmm |
| Artesian | nylon parts have much better interlayer adhesion than abs/pla |
| Artesian | super strong parts are possible |
| Artesian | 618, 645, and bridge are all good |
| NETio | I print trimmer line at 250C and I can't pull it apart with pliers |
| ramkamx | NETio: about 235 |
| NETio | That's too cold for nylon to bond properly |
| ramkamx | was concerned about fumes & temps |
| NETio | also 235 is probably the highest I'd go without an all-metal hotend |
| ramkamx | even if taulman promises it makes no harmfull ones :-) |
| Artesian | indeed dont try higher than that without all metal |
| ramkamx | NETio: got a metal one, i'm not so sure the thermistor is accurate though |
| NETio | Unless you go over like 265C you should be fine. 265 is probably fine unless you let it cook off in the hotend, but even then the amount being burned is tiny so again, likely not a problem |
| Artesian | honeywell axials are good to at least 250 |
| ramkamx | maybe it was a bit higher than 235. manage to print a timing belt and the pullies, worked quite well |
| NETio | My semitec is allegedly good to 300C |
| Artesian | which amazes me |
| ramkamx | but nowhere near the 80 MPa's of nylon |
| Artesian | semitecs break on me all the time |
| Artesian | such thin little wires |
| NETio | ramkamx: 618 will extrude at rather low temps, but doesn't get good layer bonding until 240+ |
| Artesian | 618 will bond well at 235 |
| NETio | I printed 618 at 240-245 and I print trimmer line at 250 |
| Artesian | but you're right, not much lower |
| Artesian | thats how I destroyed my jhead :( |
| NETio | ramkamx: Run it slower. You can get by with lower temps if you run slower |
| Artesian | 235 was enough to weaken the heatsink |
| Artesian | ah yeah? |
| Artesian | I wasn't going faster than 60mms |
| ramkamx | NETio: will try again then. i'm having issues with retraction. the filament is too soft, the extruder grinds the filament after a while |
| Computer_Barf | Netio: im not talking about cyanide , but in general how does nylon smell |
| Artesian | I'd like to print nylons at 100 |
| NETio | Computer_Barf: It doesn't really |
| Artesian | my 618 and 645 have zero odor |
| Artesian | even right up a few inches from the printer |
| Artesian | less than PLA, much much less than ABS |
| Artesian | im done with ABS until I build a vent system |
| Computer_Barf | Netio: comparable to PLA? I get alot of migranes and ABS can bother me. I only use abs with a hood. |
| NETio | Computer_Barf: ABS has a melted plastic kind of scent, PLA has either no scent or a sickeningly sweet scent like anti-freeze, Nylon has no scent when I printed it, even trimmer line. Got a funky smell at first, discovered it was the glue stick on my heated bed, not the nylon |
| Artesian | Garolite my friend |
| A2_ | terramir: Nylon6 min decomposition temp is 583C, pg1-124, http://gbhint.tripod.com/papers_5_13_02/368_Beyler_Hirschler_SFPE_Handbook_3.pdf |
| Artesian | no heat or adhesives needed with a good piece of garolite |
| ScribbleJ | http://i.imgur.com/gmW8bEl.jpg IT HAS BEGUN |
| NETio | running the bed at 70C (only get ~65 on top of the thick phenolic) with scotch permanent gluestick is fine now. I was running it excessively hot with a different gluestick, I forget which one. Elmer's white all-purpose and Scotch Permanent both work great for me |
| ramkamx | Computer_Barf: not so much smell / hard to notice. it does give you the same little high than ABS, maybe a bit more |
| NETio | Artesian: The glue stick is to decrease adhesion |
| Artesian | como say what? |
| Artesian | I use oils for that |
| Artesian | you really need to decrease adhesion? |
| Artesian | word |
| NETio | Artesian: Yes. Otherwise it's near impossible to get them off the bed. Running at lower temps (I've heard ~45c is good since that's near glass transition) would probably decrease bonding, but I wanted to heat the upper layers a bit too |
| terramir | Netio: z-wobble on a prusa2 what is that? |
| Artesian | makes sense. I just give the Z start height lots of clearance |
| Artesian | the first layer can be a tad messy, but I sand that anyways |
| Artesian | it still sticks like glue even dropping the filament a ways onto the sheet. and peels off easy with my palette knives |
| NETio | Now that I have maintenance free surface for ABS and PLA I'm probably going to try either decreasing temp on the nylon's bed or increase z-offset so I can get rid of the gluestick |
| Artesian | but you're right it does super-adhere if you use a normal (small) z height |
| A2_ | terramir: *CORRECTION* Nylon6 min decomposition temp is 583K |
| NETio | z-wobble? |
| NETio | zwobble? |
| NETio | banding? |
| NETio | wobble? |
| NETio | botsmack! |
| kthx | OUCH! |
| terramir | Netio: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:371052 you see any z-wobble this was printed with a prusa2 |
| kthx | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:371052 => => 0 comments, 7 IRC mentions |
| NETio | terramir: Prusa i2 or i3? |
| terramir | and no heated chamber not a single crack in the actually piece no warping |
| NETio | that almost looks too tall to be done on an i2, lol |
| terramir | 51.9mm |
| terramir | 143x143 |
| NETio | looks thicker than that |
| terramir | well I got stubby fingers |
| NETio | lol, I was looking at the fan too |
| terramir | yeah fan adds height |
| NETio | terramir: I don't fault the i2 design. Just MY i2 was bad. I could've corrected it with leadscrews or isolating the z-axis |
| NETio | But why bother for 3.8 inches of build height |
| terramir | no z-wobble just use tubes and zip ties for couples |
| NETio | Now I have 14 |
| terramir | 14 hmmm does your thing have a heated chamber? |
| NETio | I had rigid CNC'd couplers that MakerGear shipped with them. They were also constrained at the bottom in bearings. Their idea was to over-constrain the rods |
| Flipp | anyone have any tips on reducing blobbing on bowden restarts? |
| terramir | doh |
| NETio | terramir: It had one, took it off while I work on the new one that should be better |
| terramir | vinyl or other tubing from hardware store |
| terramir | presto no z-wobble what so ever |
| NETio | terramir: I've printed some pretty tall parts, no problems. Had problems sticking prints on hairspray though. Brim fixed it but now PEI is sticking ABS almost too good. It pops off cold but I just tried to remove my last set of printed parts hot and they wouldn't budge. Got a putty knife under one and it still didn't want to let go. Let it cool a bit more and it came right off |
| terramir | if I could have a heated chamber (well an enclosure that the bed gets as a by product to 60C |
| terramir | pei? |
| kthx | pei is http://www.mcmaster.com/#ultem/=m91fr5 and is also http://kuehlingkuehling.de/2013/04/02/development-roundup-metal-hotends-new-print-surface-rjmp-linear-bearings-watercooling/ and is also http://www.amazonsupply.com/dp/B00CPRDDLY |
| iamalion | im having a really weird issue with a print, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhnCih5F5go |
| iamalion | as you can see it jumps on every round part |
| iamalion | like a travel move |
| iamalion | but here is screenshots of the resulting gcode |
| iamalion | https://imgur.com/a/qIm9I |
| iamalion | wtf |
| terramir | yeah wtf is right what you slice that with |
| iamalion | and for those that want to look at the gcode file: http://dl.brandonglatz.com/Round_Vase-Torqued.gcode |
| ccecil | iamalion: jerk/accel related I guess...or max speeds possibly |
| iamalion | I used scli3r in vase mode |
| iamalion | ccecil no, it is doing a travel move like thing |
| iamalion | ccecil ive gotten all the bugs worked out |
| terramir | seems like it wants to add some air print |
| terramir | just to be different |
| ccecil | iamalion: there are no travels in vase mode...it looks to be that it is speeding up and slowing down |
| terramir | is this the experimental slic3r |
| terramir | 1.14 |
| terramir | ? |
| terramir | might be a bug reslic3 with 0.98 |
| iamalion | ccecil I set all speeds to 40mms |
| iamalion | terramir slic3r 1.0.1 |
| ccecil | yeah...looks like the cooling tab's slowdown is messing with it |
| iamalion | ooh that would make sense |
| terramir | 1.0.1 I'm using it right now can't even use concentric had to switch to hilbi to make sure top and bottom is closed it should not have a 1 number 0.72b was superior |
| ccecil | either slowdown or max speeds |
| iamalion | the only speed related cooling setting is min speed |
| iamalion | which is set at 15mms |
| terramir | NETio: your saying this PEi stuff is superior to window tint with abs juice? |
| ccecil | iamalion: IIRC the only time I had issues like that it was related to max speeds in firmware....or accel/jerk |
| iamalion | hmm |
| NETio | Never used window tint. I've heard it's about like Kapton. Kapton stuck great for me, but tears easily and is a PITA to apply. ABS Juice is too much work IMO, I've never used it. PEI sticks as good, if not better, than Kapton and is usable endlessly. People have thousands of prints on a single sheet on the SeeMeCNC forums with a mix of ABS/PLA and it's still working great |
| iamalion | oh well fuck it, ill print it as normal with 0 infill |
| iamalion | i dont need vase mode |
| iamalion | NETio is that with or without a heated bed |
| NETio | If you have something working for you then I say stick with it unless you want to move away from ABS Juice |
| NETio | iamalion: With heated bed. ABS doesn't stick to it without heat, don't ask how I figured this out :P |
| iamalion | what |
| iamalion | yes it does |
| NETio | ACTION may have been configuring KISSlicer and didn't realize he had to put bed heatup code in the start g-code |
| iamalion | printing on bare glass is so much easier than dicking around with additives |
| NETio | iamalion: I'm saying ABS doesn't stick to cold PEI |
| ramkamx | gn everyone |
| iamalion | oic |
| NETio | iamalion: And PEI is a sheet of material like glass or garolite. Endlessly reusable like glass. That's why I transitioned to it and away from hairspray on glass. Bare glass with ABS never worked well for me. |
| iamalion | ACTION shrugs |
| iamalion | I have never had a problem with bare glass |
| ramkamx | hairspray works like a charm, and holds well for about 15-20 prints |
| ramkamx | i put a thick layer of it (spraying a lot) first, then level up from time to time |
| ramkamx | gn |
| GrumpyOldMan0001 | what this new surface on kickstater, anyone have any real facts vs advertising |
| NETio | iamalion: You and ccecil seem to be the only people in the world capable of printing ABS onto bare glass without a problem |
| NETio | GrumpyOldMan0001: Link? |
| iamalion | \o/ |
| ccecil | NETio: pretty much every printer I have sold prints on bare glass |
| iamalion | as long as the glass is heated you can print on it |
| GrumpyOldMan0001 | NETio: http://www.3ders.org//articles/20140618-geckotek-3d-printer-build-plate-with-a-permanent-coating-launches-on-kickstarter.html |
| NETio | Gecko has made build surfaces in the past I thought |
| NETio | but this thing with a magnetic base... if they made it in rostock size with a round bed :D |
| NETio | But I'm happy with PEI. Maybe what that is, but probably not. PEI is Ultem and normally only comes in a single color. It's stupid expensive in thicker sheets too. Like $100 for a 12x12 sheet that's 1/4" thick |
| NETio | I never got the level of adhesion I needed with ABS on bare glass |
| NETio | Maybe a matter of the filament used |
| Flipp | bowden? |
| kthx | bowden is a type of extruder that the drive mechanism is mounted in a fixed position, and 'feeds' the filament to the hotend by using tubing, such as PTFE. Does have known issues, read http://www.reprap.org/wiki/Erik%27s_Bowden_Extruder |
| Flipp | ugh. have blobs at the start of my seams with my bowden :( |
| NETio | kthx: bowden has also been successfully used on many printers. The known issues can be corrected with proper tuning |
| Flipp | and I'm retracting at 60mm/s :/ |
| NETio | kthx: bowden is also has been successfully used on many printers. The known issues can be corrected with proper tuning |
| kthx | NETio: Okay. |
| NETio | bowden? |
| kthx | bowden is a type of extruder that the drive mechanism is mounted in a fixed position, and 'feeds' the filament to the hotend by using tubing, such as PTFE. Does have known issues, read http://www.reprap.org/wiki/Erik%27s_Bowden_Extruder and is also has been successfully used on many printers. The known issues can be corrected with proper tuning |
| NETio | Flipp: how far? |
| NETio | Flipp: I run 5mm retract @ 100mm/s |
| Flipp | NETio: 3.5mm |
| NETio | Flipp: 1.75mm or 3mm? |
| Flipp | NETio: 1.75mm |
| NETio | Flipp: Probably needs more distance |
| Flipp | I'm using a 5.14:1 phidgets geared stepper, which means my retract speed is limited :/ |
| Flipp | even with full stepping the drivers |
| NETio | hmm |
| Flipp | Netio: more? that means the duration it's in one spot would be (a tiny bit) longer |
| NETio | I run a direct drive without issue |
| Flipp | how many amps are you running? |
| Flipp | and which DD extruder are you using? |
| NETio | I don't run wipe either. I run wipe with Nylon and I'm running it now with KISSlicer |
| NETio | Flipp: EZStruder. Think airtripper but injection molded. Same hobbed gear. ~1.2amps on a Kysan 5.5kg/cm stepper |
| NETio | not really like an airtripper. It has a lever to take tension off the idler so more like makerbot. IDK. It's unique |
| NETio | EZStruder? |
| kthx | EZStruder is http://www.flickr.com/photos/seemecnc/sets/72157633442364376/ and is also http://youtu.be/2bmbvPiY7qM and is also http://reprap.org/wiki/EZStruder |
| NETio | But functionally it's the same as an airtripper. Airtripper actually gives a little more freedom to increase pressure against the drive gear |
| NETio | Flipp: I also run 3mm of z-lift @ 100mm/s |
| NETio | That can't really be done on a normal cartesian printer |
| Flipp | Delta, I'm assuming? :0 |
| Flipp | :) |
| NETio | but I don't get blobs even when I run like 0.2mm z-lift |
| Flipp | ya, I run 200 mm/s travel, which gets rid of blobs quite a bit |
| NETio | I just did that since at one point I had curling overhangs and I didn't want the nozzle hitting the curled overhang on a travel move while it's speeding along at 250mm/s |
| Flipp | I'm trying to design something like an airtripper for direct extrusion, but I'm having trouble getting enough force through the tube :/ |
| NETio | I run conservative accels. 1200mm/s^2 |
| Flipp | NETio: yup, good thinking. pla I'm assuming? |
| NETio | Flipp: What stepper? Direct drive only really works with high torque steppers. Cheap chinese steppers probably won't work well |
| Flipp | NETio: 78oz/in, the beefy nema17s |
| NETio | Flipp: I run almost exclusively ABS through an E3D |
| Flipp | my original problem was I was using a brainwave. worked great for bowden, but it only can pump 0.8A. so I switched to pololus |
| NETio | Ran PLA fine through the stock seemecnc hotend. That hotend had a longer meltzone. I ran 6-7mm retraction on it |
| Flipp | Curling with ABS? Huh, I thought that was just a PLA problem |
| NETio | Flipp: I was running PLA at the time |
| Flipp | ah, ok :) |
| NETio | Told my 3dHubs client I wanted to change it to ABS in same color, he didn't care. PLA was too brittle for the ultra-thin part at the top anyway |
| NETio | Flipp: http://imgur.com/a/oQAPB |
| Flipp | nice. what'd you use to slice? for the support? |
| A2_ | NETio: that's really good, got a pic of your rig that produced it? |
| A2_ | what material? |
| NETio | Flipp: Also have this printed in ABS https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74222499/Photo%20Jun%2019%2C%2012%2018%2017%20AM.jpg |
| NETio | White ABS on the little Reddit Snoo that some lucky guy got 3d printed for free on a 3d hubs promotion |
| NETio | Black ABS on the other print. It's a mini quadcopter arm for a prototype frame. Frame body is machined G10, arms will *hopefully* be 3d printed |
| NETio | All printed on a Rostock Max. Quad arm (black part) was done in Slic3r 1.1.4 (or maybe 1.1.3) and the Snoo had to be done with KISSlicer, Slic3r left too large a gap between support material and the ball on top |
| A2_ | your Rostock is tuned nicely |
| Flipp | my prize print: https://plus.google.com/photos/101682578687816605145/albums/posts/5822321867101819586?pid=5822321867101819586&oid=101682578687816605145 |
| NETio | A2_: These are older pictures of my Rostock Max. Both those prints were done without the heated chamber on it. I'm rebuilding the chamber from printed brackets and rigid insulation. The old one was just flexible insulation taped to it http://imgur.com/a/qKYCi |
| Flipp | no cleanup, no support |
| Flipp | back on my old MendelMax 1.5+... I can't seem to slice that model correctly since then :/ |
| A2_ | love it, looks like a satellite |
| NETio | wow |
| NETio | those bridges..... |
| Flipp | haha, nice NETio... love the heated build chamber :) |
| Flipp | I know, right? that was good 'ol greg's wade's, 3MM filament on a MM1.5+. |
| NETio | yeah, heated chambers aren't conducive to bridging though. It does let you run a fan with ABS for better overhangs though. |
| NETio | I've never tuned for bridging on my RMax |
| Flipp | the problem is most slicing programs don't slice the bridges correctly anymore :( |
| A2_ | Netio: you could put some grow lights in that thing. lol |
| A2_ | Flipp: nice print! |
| NETio | A2_: New enclosure will be rigid polystyrene panels with the same radiant barrier insulation (from the old enclosure) on the inside and the outside hopefully spray painted black |
| NETio | spray paint may melt the polystyrene, IDK |
| Flipp | is there any new hotness in slicing? I know of slic3r, kisslicer and cura. kisslicer seems to be the most reliable |
| NETio | A2_: I quickly ditched the blue lights. It didn't look that vibrant blue in person, but it made seeing the print hard. It's just what I had leftover from a quadcopter build |
| NETio | Flipp: I have used almost exclusively slic3r since slic3r 0.2. But dealing with that small Reddit Snoo print (the white thing with a ball on its head) I had to use KISS to get proper support. And I must say I like it. I'm running a few more prints with it and I think I'll end up buying pro |
| A2_ | Halogen lights are very good for viewing colors for their true color. |
| Flipp | Jonathan (the guy that wrote KISSlicer) is a super nice guy. Worked with him back in the late '90s early 2000s |
| Flipp | and you're absolutely right: no other slicing program I've found can touch KISSlicer's support quality |
| NETio | I was almost ready to say that print couldn't be done at that scale without dissolvable support or some magic, at least not to the high resolution standard for 3d hubs |
| NETio | But KISSlicer provided the required magic, and I used the old version from 2013. Have the new beta now :D |
| Flipp | yup yup! |
| NETio | support was dense and made the ball perfect, but it literally pulled right off. No chopping with a knife, prying with a screwdriver. Just grabbed it with small pliers, gave it a little squeeze to break it free along with a little twist and it popped right off |
| Flipp | if only it provided settings for velocity-based priming (see llluis's pull request to slic3r) I'd happily use it and never look back |
| NETio | link to priming thing? |
| NETio | I like how I can pick where I want the seam, it's awesome |
| Flipp | https://github.com/alexrj/Slic3r/issues/1677 |
| NETio | I like the stratasys style seam hiding option |
| Flipp | specifically the feb 14 post by llluis |
| NETio | although slic3r seams look almost the same now, but slic3r has came a long way with seams here lately |
| Flipp | NETio: you seem to be pretty knowledgeable on bowden stuff. any tips on changing speeds and not having prints look like this: https://camo.githubusercontent.com/83598807d2df26ea08eaa56225617424ef9bb031/68747470733a2f2f662e636c6f75642e6769746875622e636f6d2f6173736574732f3730383836382f323137343634372f30336133343161632d393562342d313165332d393830352d6266373163366564636331342e4a5047 |
| Artesian | its a tanning salon |
| Artesian | with the blue lights |
| Artesian | boss |
| NETio | I run 0.1mm extra length on restart, or I did for a while. I honestly can't tell much difference. I run perimeters from inside -> outside so the start of extrusion is hidden anyway, although I have printed single-walled cylinders that look fine. That looks like underextrusion I think |
| Flipp | NETio: that's the thing... it only looks like that if it's a speed change |
| Flipp | according to his research, it seems like it's a product of the pressure not being high enough during the speed change |
| Flipp | like if perimeters are at 30mm/s and infill is at 100mm/s |
| Flipp | bowdens have an inherent pressure required to extrude at a given speed (due to tube/filament sizes, compression, etc) |
| terramir_ | NETio, that surface what thickness you got and at what temp do you have a solid bond with abs/ pla |
| Flipp | so if the 30mm/s is at pressure X, the pressure required to print at 100mm/s is 1.2*X |
| NETio | That looks like a bandaid to me |
| terramir_ | Pei? |
| NETio | software fix for a hardware problem |
| kthx | Pei is http://www.mcmaster.com/#ultem/=m91fr5 and is also http://kuehlingkuehling.de/2013/04/02/development-roundup-metal-hotends-new-print-surface-rjmp-linear-bearings-watercooling/ and is also http://www.amazonsupply.com/dp/B00CPRDDLY |
| NETio | Flipp: I have had underextrusion before, mainly on top infill. I corrected it on the seemecnc hotend with higher temps, and I run probably higher temps than a lot run for ABS. I run ABS at 235-240C depending on speed |
| NETio | and layer height |
| NETio | Flipp: That's another thing you can try. higher layers = more plastic required |
| terramir_ | NETio? dang 111 bucks for 12x24 at 1/8 thickened that stuff is expensive |
| NETio | terramir_: I know |
| NETio | terramir_: That's why I bought 0.030" thick and laminated it to borosilicate glass :D |
| terramir_ | and 12x24 is no good |
| terramir_ | how |
| NETio | terramir_: 3M 468MP adhesive |
| terramir_ | how much is that :( |
| NETio | terramir_: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Y7CYL0/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
| NETio | terramir_: Didn't take the whole roll, the 3/4" wide in 5yds length would probably work fine |
| NETio | terramir_: They also have 1" wide. The wider the tape the more potential for air bubbles. But I have a ton of tiny bubbles and it doesn't seem to affect it |
| terramir_ | yeah but I got like three glass surfaces |
| terramir_ | :( |
| NETio | terramir_: Guys on seemecnc forums put like 100-200lbs of weight on their beds for a day or two to push out air. |
| terramir_ | what am I supposed to do sit on it lol |
| terramir_ | I dun have anything weighing 100lbs much less 200 |
| terramir_ | except my gf she's the slightly over 100 I'm 250 though |
| NETio | terramir_: One guy said he used 100lbs of books and other stuff, another used 200lbs of steel weights |
| terramir_ | two printers three glass surfaces |
| NETio | I just threw it on there and started printing |
| terramir_ | and more printers to come |
| NETio | and it's working fine. Just printed out to ~240mm diameter on my bed and it's still a consistent first layer. So I'm not worried about it. I have enough tape for a re-do if I have to sometime in the future |
| terramir_ | got the parts for at least two more printers flying areund here |
| NETio | I paid $30 for borosilicate glass, $30 for phenolic sheet, and $30 for PEI+tape. So $30 seems to be the running price for build surfaces for me |
| terramir_ | 240mm how big is your heated bed/ glass |
| terramir_ | phenolic sheet? |
| terramir_ | printed on acrylic a few times sticks like all heck |
| NETio | 300mm diameter |
| NETio | 280mm printable diameter |
| Flipp | Johann said he got a good glass plate from a round clock he bought at target for like $8 :) |
| Flipp | not boro obviously |
| NETio | some people have pushed a bit outside the 280mm spec a bit I think |
| Flipp | but definitely cheap |
| NETio | I shattered like 6 12x12 mirrors |
| NETio | But they only cost $9 for a 6-pack |
| NETio | Was heating the center to 100C but the corners hung off the print bed so were room temp |
| Flipp | on an unrelated note: good delta calibration + FSR autolevel = no more first layer headaches for this guy :D |
| NETio | Not a good combination for standard glass. I ran plain glass on my prusa i2 forever. Bought two sheets for a few dollars and they served it well for the life of the printer |
| NETio | FSR? |
| kthx | FSR is http://reprap.org/wiki/FSR |
| NETio | terramir_: I use mil-spec XX-grade phenolic to print Nylon. 0.375" thick |
| NETio | Didn't even realize it was mil-spec until after I bought it :P Don't think the spec says anything about flatness/thickness tolerances anyway, so of no use for printing. But it's a fun term to throw around |
| TTN | seen blockh34d |
| kthx | blockh34d was last seen in #reprap 2 hours 42 min ago saying '_j_diez_: _i_ _don_'_t_, _still_ _no_ _problem_... _i_ _max_ _out_ _gpu_ _on_ _erroneous_ _opengl_ _dev_ _apps_ _and_ _stuff_ _like_ _that_ _all_ _the_ _time_ _too_, _no_ _problem_'. |
| terramir | hi |
| terramir | seen kliment |
| kthx | Kliment was last seen in #reprap 2 days 16 hours ago saying '_Patte_: _Which_ _enables_ _you_ _to_ _use_ _a_ _lot_ _of_ _materials_'. |
| terramir | seen josef* |
| kthx | JosefPrusha was last seen in #reprap 2 months 1 week ago saying '_One_ _sec_, _my_ _Hispanic_ _brother_ _wants_ _to_ _talk_'. |
| kthx | josefprusa was last seen in #reprap 2 months 2 weeks ago saying '_no_'. |
| kthx | josefprusaA was last seen in #reprap 3 months 5 days ago saying '_A_ndersonTa_: $_130_, _thats_ _steep_'. |
| terramir | Seen terramir |
| kthx | terramir was last seen in #reprap 0 sec ago saying '_Seen_ _t_erramir_'. |
| NETio | seen the new prusa i4 yet? |
| NETio | i4? |
| kthx | i4 is in the works for 2014 |
| NETio | i5? |
| NETio | i7? |
| kthx | i7 is Intel's latest and greatest |
| NETio | i9? |
| NETio | i6? |
| kthx | i6 is I said we don't talk about events that occur after the great revolution. |
| NETio | So the i5 will be the one to buy :P |
| NETio | lol. I heard the i4 is a corexy or h-bot. I forget which |
| NETio | or maybe josef hadn't decided |
| Incognito675 | nah, his twitter had some info... |
| bastard_bavaria | guten morgen! |
| Incognito675 | himm, thats not good... my usb connector just fell off the board... |
| terramir | 700 bucks sheet metal easy to manufacturer en mass but unfortunetly not self built |
| crunch | what board |
| terramir | what board yeah |
| crunch | azteg x5? |
| Incognito675 | nah a external harddrive case... but its weirds its like it was reflowed off? at room temp |
| crunch | hmm |
| TTN | seen blockh34d |
| kthx | blockh34d was last seen in #reprap 3 hours 1 min ago saying '_j_diez_: _i_ _don_'_t_, _still_ _no_ _problem_... _i_ _max_ _out_ _gpu_ _on_ _erroneous_ _opengl_ _dev_ _apps_ _and_ _stuff_ _like_ _that_ _all_ _the_ _time_ _too_, _no_ _problem_'. |
| crunch | i feel like eating a nice spicy sausage |
| crunch | and the market is closed |
| ptl | hi |
| ptl | I just finished wiring my RUMBA to my kossel mini |
| ptl | I have plugged the RUMBA into a 24V power supply and the main pwr pins are powered, but it doesn't turn on |
| ptl | no leds on |
| ptl | I plugged it into my computer's USB also |
| ptl | no deal. |
| iamalion2 | asdf testing something please ignore lolz |
| iamalion | seen iamalion2 |
| kthx | iamalion2 was last seen in #reprap 3 sec ago saying '_asdf_ _testing_ _something_ _please_ _ignore_ _lolz_'. |
| iamalion | interesting |
| iamalion | was kthx updated? I've never seen mine put _ on every word |
| ptl | kthx: kossel? |
| kthx | kossel is https://github.com/jcrocholl/kossel and is also the openbeam version of Rostock and is also http://reprap.org/wiki/Kossel pics at http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcrocholl/tags/kossel and is also http://tinyurl.com/l9ov97r |
| ptl | kthx: rumba? |
| kthx | rumba is http://www.reprap.org/wiki/RUMBA and is also http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?94,173145 and is also http://www.indiegogo.com/rumba and is also http://www.reprapdiscount.com/electronics/33-rumba-basic-board.html |
| ptl | no help? |
| TTN | seen blockh34d |
| kthx | blockh34d was last seen in #reprap 3 hours 10 min ago saying '_j_diez_: _i_ _don_'_t_, _still_ _no_ _problem_... _i_ _max_ _out_ _gpu_ _on_ _erroneous_ _opengl_ _dev_ _apps_ _and_ _stuff_ _like_ _that_ _all_ _the_ _time_ _too_, _no_ _problem_'. |
| ptl | my rumba simply doesn't turn on |
| crunch | read the bottom of the page |
| UnderSampled | without starting a war, does anyone here have an opinion between the TAPR OHL vs CERN OHL? |
| ptl | the troubleshooting part? I've tried it, but I can't power it even standalone, much less USB |
| ptl | crunch? |
| ptl | hmm |
| ptl | unable to enumerate USB device |
| navyvet | hello all |
| navyvet | anyone use the megatronics? |
| terramir | UnderSampled wtf is either explain pl0x |
| terramir | ohl? |
| terramir | tapr ohl? |
| terramir | cern ohl? |
| UnderSampled | open hardware liscenses |
| terramir | kthx does not know and niether do I |
| terramir | I'd have to read em send me links pl0x |
| UnderSampled | tapr OHL: http://www.tapr.org/TAPR_Open_Hardware_License_v1.0.pdf |
| UnderSampled | cern ohl: http://www.ohwr.org/attachments/2390/cern_ohl_v_1_2.pdf |
| TTN | seen blockh34d |
| kthx | blockh34d was last seen in #reprap 3 hours 54 min ago saying '_j_diez_: _i_ _don_'_t_, _still_ _no_ _problem_... _i_ _max_ _out_ _gpu_ _on_ _erroneous_ _opengl_ _dev_ _apps_ _and_ _stuff_ _like_ _that_ _all_ _the_ _time_ _too_, _no_ _problem_'. |
| iamalion | http://i.imgur.com/ZVXmJar.jpg |
| flog | iamalion: bad slicing tool ? :) |
| Incognito675 | photon in a mirrored box got bored with going straight |
| Incognito675 | ? |
| terramir | cern bad exe not supported on mac lol |
| terramir | undersampled |
| UnderSampled | where does cern say exe? |
| terramir | click on link its a self extracting exe i can''''''t use |
| terramir | :( |
| UnderSampled | it should have been a pdf |
| UnderSampled | http://www.ohwr.org/projects/cernohl/wiki |
| terramir | either or will do but your stuck with whatevert license your predecessors used anyways |
| UnderSampled | terramir: probably, but if I'm making my own stuff, I want a good choise |
| jglauche | I dual licensed code for parts gplv3 + tapr recently |
| TTN | seen blockh34d |
| kthx | blockh34d was last seen in #reprap 4 hours 30 min ago saying '_j_diez_: _i_ _don_'_t_, _still_ _no_ _problem_... _i_ _max_ _out_ _gpu_ _on_ _erroneous_ _opengl_ _dev_ _apps_ _and_ _stuff_ _like_ _that_ _all_ _the_ _time_ _too_, _no_ _problem_'. |
| mastag25 | why do you keep doing that |
| mastag25 | in the last 12 hours i have seen you do that 7 times |
| mastag25 | wt |
| mastag25 | wtf |
| mastag25 | he quit |
| Computer_Barf | lol |
| Computer_Barf | tryna find block34d yo |
| jglauche | kthx: tell TTN you can /query the bot too! |
| UnderSampled | I bet this is even more annoying :D |
| kthx | jglauche: I'll pass that on when TTN is around. |
| UnderSampled | seen TTN |
| kthx | TTN was last seen in #reprap 4 min 27 sec ago saying '_seen_ _blockh34d_'. |
| UnderSampled | oh, good it screens it :) |
| iamalion | damn bad part of octoprint |
| iamalion | part started hittig because i ran out of z |
| iamalion | but i had octoprint's page closed |
| iamalion | so i panickly typed the ip in |
| iamalion | and wasnt logged in |
| iamalion | then screwed up my login 3 times as it made a mess |
| iamalion | then accidentally clicked home after cancelling instead of moving the y |
| iamalion | so i tried to home hte exruder into the fram |
| iamalion | damit |
| Belxjander | well I have the challenge of needing to setup a "standalone" printer unit |
| Belxjander | I already have a Raspi...but need to build a machine for someone else |
| Belxjander | or at least look into doing so |
| Computer_Barf | iamalion, what kind of printer? |
| Belxjander | what is recommended for running an "Octoprint" web server printer setup? |
| iamalion | also why teh fuck cant slic3r have a message when slicing "hey this print wont fit due to your z height" |
| iamalion | like shit that would be so simple to add |
| Belxjander | Raspi or BeagleBone Black? |
| iamalion | Computer_Barf ccecil mmpro |
| Belxjander | iamalion: because there is no concept of the spatial limits without calibrating them first? |
| terramir | the tapr as far as I read says that any modifications must continue to be licenced by thay agreement |
| ccecil | iamalion: I always check in netfabb...you should get the parts to convert yours to the new one :) |
| Belxjander | iamalion: and that is left up to the user to work around afaik |
| Computer_Barf | did you print a raspberry pi case for mounting it to your printer? |
| iamalion | but you set your bed x and y in slic3r |
| iamalion | it would be as simple as adding a z height box for the warning |
| iamalion | we all forget sometimes |
| iamalion | normally i check |
| iamalion | just forgo |
| Belxjander | Computer_Barf: do you mean me? |
| iamalion | good thing i was still up |
| terramir | rasberry pi that's the equivalent of a pentium 2 so very slow |
| Computer_Barf | i was asking iamalion, but anyone who might have mounted a raspberry pi on extrusion |
| iamalion | whats the problem with the raspi? |
| mastag25 | should have my printer cam set up tomororw |
| iamalion | I use one on my printer to run octoprint |
| iamalion | and 3 at work for our printers |
| Belxjander | Computer_Barf: well I need to sort out mounting a Raspi...along with the rest of building an i3 kit |
| terramir | well I gtg --------------> sleep |
| iamalion | plus a few other pi's for various other things |
| iamalion | i like raspberry pis |
| Belxjander | ACTION is still trying to work out how in hell to pay for a kit to build an i3 for himself let alone deal with anyone else locally wanting one as well |
| Computer_Barf | iamalion: i was expressing an interest in if you had printed a case for mounting your raspberry pi to extrusions |
| Belxjander | iamalion: I need to setup a Raspi Octoprint server...with a real printer attached as well by the other USB port |
| Incognito675 | I also like r-pi's but agree they are to slow for many things... slicing for one! |
| iamalion | oh no, mine is pinned to the side of the printer between it and the table lol |
| iamalion | the ones at work have cases |
| Computer_Barf | I have a raspberry pi sitting around and would like to use octoprint. I have a mendelmax, but was wondering if anyone could recommend a case |
| mastag25 | for the rpi? |
| Computer_Barf | mmpro is a mendelmax? |
| iamalion | https://i.imgur.com/tGSfoGE.jpg |
| Belxjander | Computer_Barf: well I bought myself a 2pi stacking case that is extensible |
| iamalion | https://i.imgur.com/YmF4j07.jpg |
| iamalion | my printer |
| Computer_Barf | yeah a case for the raspberry pi |
| iamalion | pie is pinned under the left z smoothrod |
| mastag25 | whats that iamalion |
| Belxjander | so If I need to I can plug together however many RPis and daisy them as a cluster setup |
| mastag25 | what printer |
| mastag25 | that looks very nice |
| iamalion | a ccecil mmpro |
| ccecil | iamalion: technically a TL mmpro |
| iamalion | shhhhh we dont talk about them |
| ccecil | well...it was their design |
| Belxjander | what are the current recommendable parts for Electronics, Hot-end, Motors and frame model? |
| ccecil | modded from the MM 1.5+ |
| iamalion | ACTION shrugs |
| Belxjander | is it RAMPS/Sanguinololu, jHead, RATTM and i3 or some other combination? |
| crunch | c cecil : thats a pbc y rail? |
| ccecil | crunch: yeah |
| crunch | how is the slack in it |
| ccecil | y and x |
| ccecil | not bad on mine...but there are probably better out there |
| crunch | pm |
| Computer_Barf | I have a mendelmax, but I'm getting some z wobble because my z rods don't like to stay in the the bearings in the vertices |
| London3D | Good morning. |
| mastag25 | have you asked them in their channel barf |
| Computer_Barf | not yet |
| TTN | seen blockh34d |
| kthx | blockh34d was last seen in #reprap 4 hours 52 min ago saying '_j_diez_: _i_ _don_'_t_, _still_ _no_ _problem_... _i_ _max_ _out_ _gpu_ _on_ _erroneous_ _opengl_ _dev_ _apps_ _and_ _stuff_ _like_ _that_ _all_ _the_ _time_ _too_, _no_ _problem_'. |
| kthx | TTN: 18 min 25 sec ago <jglauche> tell TTN you can /query the bot too! |
| Computer_Barf | TTN |
| Computer_Barf | why??? |
| TTN | sorry for the spam guys. |
| TTN | I'll use that command from now on |
| Computer_Barf | lol just wondering if you were automated |
| mastag25 | what |
| mastag25 | you keep joining and doing the same command |
| mastag25 | it's 8 times now |
| mastag25 | :( |
| TTN | oh right. yea were doing a project and am bouncing to talk to him :p |
| TTN | haha I'll leave it for today. |
| Tuim | TTN: you can leave a message |
| Tuim | with the tell command |
| Tuim | Something like 'tell blockhead34d something' |
| mastag25 | err |
| mastag25 | is someone around that can test my camera |
| dirtycold | hi. is there a way to use cura-engine to infill a set of intersected polygons? |
| Tuim | mastag25: Test it how? |
| Tuim | reprapdiscount? |
| kthx | reprapdiscount is a source of low cost RAMPS 1.4, Pololus and Arduinos. IRC-Contact: BubbleRep, Shop: www.reprapdiscount.com, Forum: www.rrd.bz BEWARE: their RAMPS comes w/ D1 pre-populated, do NOT use more than 12v w/o removing this diode! SDRAMPS pins are also male instead of female. |
| Tuim | BubbleRep: Do you have a EU distributor? |
| mastag25 | thanks anyway Tuim Computer_Barf helped me |
| mastag25 | nite nite |
| t00tie | seward? |
| t00tie | steward? |
| t00tie | dammit, what's that weird delta called? |
| t00tie | kthx? |
| kthx | kthx is a noob and a bot. if I had hands i would be a God. Documentation at http://bot.kthx.nl/ or ask kthx for help. |
| Smidge204 | simpson? |
| kthx | simpson is a family of unusual deltabots built by Nicholas Seward, see gus simpson or lisa simpson for more | original forum thread: http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?178,206458 | group thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/deltabot/K3vpkeZtg2c |
| TTN | rostock? |
| kthx | Rostock: blog http://deltabot.tumblr.com/ - thingiverse http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:17175 - source https://github.com/jcrocholl/rostock - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Z2mCPpd2c&feature=g-user-u and is also Johann's openbeam version http://www.flickr.com/photos/metrixcreate/sets/72157631531973458/ |
| RifRaf | stewart? |
| t00tie | simpson it was, the maker is Seward, ty Smidge204 |
| GeoffS | Anyone built a Wolfstock and care to share some construction details? Starting printing bits for it today but not sure on the option for GT2 belt. |
| crunch | you can message wolfmanjm |
| crunch | he made it |
| GeoffS | Thanks. |
| nikre | abs? |
| kthx | abs is smelly when molten, maybe you want to vent it; is also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylonitrile_butadiene_styrene and http://reprap.org/wiki/ABS and its smelly melting-byproduct is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butadiene and is also don't believe all the FUD, read the MSDS: http://www.plasticsmadesimple.com/DataSheets/ABS_MSDS_GP.pdf |
| Ninjinx | Can anyone confirm that the Traxxas rod ends used on a kossel mini are the Traxxas 5347 large revo rod ends? |
| crunch | tridprinting.com has the specs |
| Ninjinx | Yup, 5347 - thanks! |
| crunch | where the fuck is everyone |
| MattyMatt | still mooching around on that mudball planet |
| MattyMatt | shore leave is cancelled. everybody get in their starships, it's time to move on |
| crunch | put the pipe down.... |
| Incognito675 | well its mid winter here, and most are hibernating, or trying to! |
| MattyMatt | don't get comfortable. there isn't enough fresh water on this mudball for us to stay here |
| crunch | 4am i should think about bed |
| MattyMatt | ACTION prepares a couple of stasis pods for the sleepyheads |
| pwillard | 7:04 AM Nobody is awake yet |
| jglauche | lies! |
| Incognito675 | MattyMatt: yes please! set mine to wake up in a decade, thanks |
| crunch | ACTION makes a bowel movement inside the pod |
| MattyMatt | a decade? don't you want to wait for flying cars? |
| pwillard | So I've fixed 2 broken parts on my wifes wooden spinning wheel (You know, the thing that spins raw wool into yarn) and she has now accepted that 3D printers are useful. Though she still calls my printer "the other woman" and has named her Giada. |
| Incognito675 | MattyMatt: a decade will do, have a look around, go back in for annother decade |
| jglauche | pwillard: be more creative! |
| jglauche | ACTION printing silicone forms for body melts http://i.imgur.com/LDm9sOG.png |
| MattyMatt | Incognito675, but the electricity bill will need paying, better to stay in until money is obsolete |
| MattyMatt | and cars fly |
| Incognito675 | MattyMatt: compound interest will cover that |
| pwillard | Oh, good use for NinjaFlex (making molds) ? |
| jglauche | pwillard: if I could print flexible material correctly, yes |
| jglauche | pwillard: this gets printed in PLA, then I pour in silicone |
| pwillard | what does it require? |
| pwillard | Ah... neat. I have not tried making molds yet |
| nikre | are there scad files of prusa i3 rework? or can i also use stl to modify a diameter of a part? |
| jglauche | but yes, I should make an extruder with a drive gear that can feed TPE |
| pwillard | http://mashable.com/2014/06/20/radio-shack-1-dollar-nyse/ |
| pwillard | So hobbed bolt is no good for that then... \ |
| jglauche | could be |
| jglauche | but I use gears that bite brutally into the filament |
| jglauche | works wonderful for anything hard |
| pwillard | ah |
| MattyMatt | has anyone tried driving filament with rubber rollers? |
| Smidge204__ | No reason it wouldn't work if you pinched hard enough. I think getting suitable rubber wheels has been the main hurdle |
| Smidge204__ | (ie nobody could be assed to try as of yet) |
| MattyMatt | I've seen lots of suitable ones in old paper printers |
| Incognito675 | yip, every few years someone tries it.. you get variable extrusion due to variable compressions and filimant size |
| MattyMatt | I wouldn't be inclined to try it, having grown up with cassette tape chewing. I was just curious |
| Incognito675 | I had forgotten about tapes doing that... it been so long since ive even see a cassette |
| Smidge204__ | Seems only worth the trouble for really soft filaments, but that introduces other problems |
| MattyMatt | the pinchwheel on casettes is what makes me want to get rid of the idler, and have 2 drivewheels |
| Smidge204__ | Casettes only have one drivewheel AFAIK |
| MattyMatt | exactly |
| MattyMatt | any drop of oil or moisture and it slipped |
| Smidge204__ | Having a double-driven extruder is nontrivial |
| MattyMatt | yep, best plan I have is a geartrain of 4 small gears, and springs and whatnots |
| Smidge204__ | Somewhere I had a Sketchup model if a scheme |
| starno | MattyMatt: I use dual drivegears |
| MattyMatt | or if each wheel was on a unijoint driveshaft, from a simple fixed pair of gears at the motor |
| Smidge204__ | Oh, two schemes |
| Smidge204__ | http://www.smidgeindustriesltd.com/dualdriveextruder.png |
| MattyMatt | 3rd scheme (used by ezra) 2 motors |
| Smidge204__ | http://www.smidgeindustriesltd.com/dualdrive_extruder_a.GIF |
| MattyMatt | starno, how does yours work? |
| starno | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1360727/Proto2%20Parts/Photo%20on%204-28-13%20at%204.10%20PM.jpg |
| Smidge204__ | That looks like a good grip! |
| MattyMatt | arr, it works well :) but HOW? |
| starno | I made custom gears with two tooth profiles, one set meshes and the other pinches |
| MattyMatt | ah, I thought of that, but that'd mean the meshing can't be ideal at all distances |
| nikre | i need help. i see that prusa i3 vanilla has scad files but the i3 rework doesnt have the parametric files. i want to build the i3 rework but use 12mm smooth rods instead of m8 smooth rods (to utilize what i already have) . how can i do this? |
| MattyMatt | nikre probably mix and match |
| starno | MattyMatt: what do you mean? |
| MattyMatt | take the original i3 scad, generate your desired config, then hack in the mods from the rework |
| Smidge204__ | MattyMatt: With the correct tooth profile you'll get good contact at varying centers |
| MattyMatt | without backlash? |
| Smidge204__ | Oh, no, you'll always have backlach :) |
| MrVoltz | Its ok that M105 says 100 °C, but when I measure the hotend manually, iz |
| MrVoltz | t says like 55°C |
| Smidge204__ | But I imagine that's not too bad since the filament itself would create an anti-backlash jamming effect |
| Tuim | MrVoltz: Did you do pid tuning? |
| Tuim | I dont know how much that can matter |
| Tuim | pid? |
| kthx | pid is Proportional, Integral, Derivative. A control algorithm used for temp control in some repraps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PID_controller -- A nice Arduino tutorial at http://goo.gl/vWQpE -- Marlin/Sprinter can auto tune your PID parameters: First run M303, your bot will heat up to 150, let it cycle several times, this will print out increasingly accurate pid values. Use M301 Px Ix Dx for new values and M500 to store |
| Bo_DK | quick Q: how long can the wires on a full graph display for ramps be ? |
| Bo_DK | the cables that came with the display is only about 20cm long |
| MattyMatt | I guess it's not a problem if the 2nd drive is actually loose in the mesh, as long as the filament is driving OK, but as soon as the filament starts to slip, then the mesh will catch it |
| Bo_DK | and i have a small spool of flat ribbon |
| starno | MattyMatt: I run direct drive and if I hold the filament the motor skips, by design :D |
| starno | havent noticed any problems with backlash, but Im not sure how to measure it really |
| MattyMatt | Bo_DK 6ft is the traditional limit for TTL signals |
| MrVoltz | Pid tunning has nothing to do with it, I set M104 to 100 |
| Smidge204__ | MrVoltz: How are you manually measuring the temp? |
| MrVoltz | Vernier surface temperature meter |
| Bo_DK | MattyMatt: thanks.... that is 1.8 meters... more than enough... just wanted to extend them as much so i can have the display in a case on the table |
| Smidge204__ | So.. non-contact |
| MrVoltz | I put it on the aluminium block |
| Smidge204__ | But the temperature reading is based on infrared emissions and not physical contact, right? |
| MrVoltz | No, it is black thermistor or somrthing like that |
| Smidge204__ | I see. That's good. |
| Smidge204__ | Try setting it to different temperatures, and comparing actual vs. reported temps at multiple points |
| Riverghost | hey all |
| Smidge204__ | If you plot those temps, you shold get two fairly straight lines |
| Smidge204__ | I they aren't parallel then you probably have the wrong thermistor selected |
| MrVoltz | Ok, how many temps? |
| Riverghost | should i try and finish my calibration and fine tuning of my printer before i stick the standalone cp+sd card reader on it, or does it not really matter? any ideas peeples? |
| Smidge204__ | The joke is, if you requier a striaght-line fit, only collect two datapoints :) |
| Smidge204__ | But three or four points should be good enough to see what's going on |
| starno | MattyMatt: when I noticed the geared extruders are torquey enough to lift the x-axis of a machine, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1360727/Proto2%20Parts/blobbing.jpg , I wanted to get the torque just right that the extruder skips if there is an issue https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1360727/Proto2%20Parts/IMG_0495.JPG |
| starno | the ultimate goal of 100% unattended printing |
| pwillard | You can make 1 data point = Good data or Bad data, no one will know. |
| MrVoltz | Hi, my connection dropped |
| MrVoltz | So two are ok, or more? |
| Smidge204__ | But three or four points should be good enough to see what's going on |
| Riverghost | anyone got any idea bout tuning before making standalone, or wether its counterproductive (as youd have to retune after fitting perhaps?) |
| Bo_DK | Riverghost: hmmmm i would go as close to standalone i could before tuning (pid) |
| Bo_DK | ie calibrate etc etc and get a super good print with pc connected... then pid tune and then standalone |
| Bo_DK | just to be safe |
| Riverghost | pid tune? |
| buZz | pid? |
| kthx | pid is Proportional, Integral, Derivative. A control algorithm used for temp control in some repraps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PID_controller -- A nice Arduino tutorial at http://goo.gl/vWQpE -- Marlin/Sprinter can auto tune your PID parameters: First run M303, your bot will heat up to 150, let it cycle several times, this will print out increasingly accurate pid values. Use M301 Px Ix Dx for new values and M500 to store |
| Bo_DK | its an automatic procedure that tunes the pid numbers |
| Bo_DK | so it does not overshoot temp as much and not under either |
| Riverghost | got some pretty good prints now and great bed adhesion, im just trying to improve my bridging |
| Riverghost | which atm, sucks lool |
| Bo_DK | ahh |
| starno | Riverghost: temperature and speed is key |
| Riverghost | im also not 100% ive got the hotend nozzle size correctly calibrated, lost my damn recipt and the things built in good now, and wrapped in kapton |
| Riverghost | waiting for a mail back from the seller, hopefully he has details |
| starno | extrude mid air and measure the diameter |
| starno | its going to be around 10% less than what you measure |
| malcom2073 | hangout? |
| kthx | hangout is a persistent audio and video chat room, open 24/7. http://tinyurl.com/om9vtre - Requires a google login. (Blame Canada) |
| Riverghost | ok ill try and check, seems im getting about .5 |
| spret | I am having trouble with larger prints cracking (the plastic must be shrinking as it cools?). I'm printing in ABS and was hoping that it would be more crack resistant (isn't it less brittle?). |
| nikre | is it possible to make the smooth rod diameter as 12mm on the prusa i3 boxed frame? the smooth rod diameter is not parametric on the scad configuration file. what would be an easy way to do this? |
| malcom2073 | spret: cracking, or layer seperation? |
| spret | Any solution ideas? |
| spret | yes, layer separation!! |
| malcom2073 | spret: i added a heated enclosure, it did a pretty good job of preventing that from happening |
| Riverghost | spret i would say you need to keep the heat there |
| Riverghost | so dont let breezes onto the print, try giving it a few enclosed sides, back, top, left n right |
| robotustra | morning |
| TBoneCam | gday |
| Riverghost | NIKRE how about taking a prebuilt part and scaling it in autocad till you match the diameter your after? |
| nikre | Riverghost, how can i modify stl files? |
| spret | malcom2073: thanks. What kind of material did you use? |
| malcom2073 | spret: for the enclosure? lexan |
| starno | Riverghost: if you measure 0.5mm out of the nozzle, its either a plastic with a lot of dieswell or a shitty machining job on the hole |
| malcom2073 | Aluminum t-slot frame, lexan panels, and a space heater to heat it |
| Riverghost | starno, that was measuring some cold 'ooze' that had been left from the head. will test before my next print to get a better idea. |
| Riverghost | and dieswell? |
| MrVoltz | Ok, so the difference is like 20 °C |
| starno | dieswell? |
| starno | the swelling effect of plastic as it exits nozzle orifice |
| ChristianS | nikre: are you sure the smooth rod diameter is not parametric? it should be. |
| nikre | let me re-check |
| MrVoltz | I'll try to create new temperature tables using createTemperatureLookupMarlin and thermistor datasheet |
| starno | Riverghost: this is what the extrusion profile really looks like http://jesseenterprises.net/amsci/1978/11/1978-11-02.jpeg |
| terramir_ | y-axis binding how to solve |
| robotustra | http://std3.ru/96/58/1403190843-96580848514c4c399b7ee8435eeea2c1.jpeg |
| robotustra | scripture: "go home, no vodka in here" |
| terramir_ | what's up with the tank |
| Riverghost | rgr |
| terramir_ | rgr? |
| pwillard | TANKS everywhere... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22j0415NmfQ |
| terramir_ | who talks about bots in here anymore or has that moved to a different forum lol |
| terramir_ | \ |
| Riverghost | i was talking to starno |
| starno | rgr? |
| robotustra | pwillard: tanks it's past, atomic bomb is something |
| robotustra | I calibrated the printer yesterday evening |
| Wnt | nikre: I think it's not enough to simply scale the stl files to change the smooth rod dimension |
| robotustra | 4 iterations only |
| robotustra | not bad |
| Riverghost | rgr = roger, i meant i got what u were on about with the dieswell |
| Wnt | nikre: you would need to re-design lots of parts to support linear bearings that fit to 12mm rods |
| TBoneCam | botlove! |
| TBoneCam | botlove? |
| kthx | botlove is also, Oh yeah, extrude that filament! |
| robotustra | seen the_file |
| kthx | the_file was last seen in #reprap 2 days 55 min ago saying '_not_ _good_'. |
| Riverghost | nikre - you upscaling your prusa? |
| nikre | Wnt, yes that's what i think too. i will have to trace a lot of parts :/ |
| nikre | Riverghost, i want to utilize the rods i already have |
| Riverghost | ahh i see |
| nikre | also with the hope to end up with a more rigid frame |
| Wnt | nikre: it might be a good project to get to know some 3D modeling software |
| nikre | ChristianS, the threaded rod diameter and smooth rod length are parametric on the configuration file. the smooth rod diameter is not parametric |
| nikre | Wnt, thats right |
| Wnt | but it also might be prettu frustrating if you need to change lots of places manually |
| nikre | challenge accepted! |
| robotustra | Delta printers are cool |
| Loetmichel | Wnt: or he couls just get a lathe andturn down the ends of the rods to 10mm |
| Loetmichel | ... and only resize the LM12UU holdert |
| Loetmichel | -t+s |
| MattyMatt | I'd just ream the holes out to 12mm |
| Wnt | Loetmichel: and hope that there is enough space everywhere for the 12mm rods... |
| Loetmichel | yes |
| Loetmichel | there should be |
| Loetmichel | a 12mm rod is only a mm bigger in any dimesnion |
| Loetmichel | i dont think they desined that narrow |
| MattyMatt | I made my printer in blender before I started. it was a standard sells but it was still nice to have it for reference |
| Loetmichel | them linear bearings cound be a problem, because they are a´miuch bigger if i remember correctly |
| MattyMatt | m90 seems easier to change things on |
| zimirken | hey, what process controls can i do to make my prints stronger in the z axis, besides speed and temp |
| zimirken | increase nozzle width setting? |
| malcom2073 | Increase extrusion width setting, it will squish more and likely adhere more |
| Riverghost | yah what malcom says |
| malcom2073 | Increase the number of perimiter walls. infill doesn't hold all that well in the Z (more X/Y), perimieter walls do most of the holding |
| zimirken | even at 100% infill? |
| terramir_ | ehhhh who has a y-axis that moves a table still |
| malcom2073 | Don't know |
| malcom2073 | terramir_: I do |
| terramir_ | binding |
| terramir_ | Y |
| terramir_ | solutions |
| ChristianS | nikre: there is an outcommented setting smooth_bar_diameter that you should set to 12 |
| malcom2073 | Oh, nope no binding |
| terramir_ | ? |
| malcom2073 | align your rods, they'll stop binding |
| ChristianS | nikre: not sure if it'll have an effect, but i would hope so |
| terramir_ | what I was thinking any other causes? |
| MattyMatt | moving bed Y lets you get that axis perfect before you even consider the others |
| Riverghost | what temp do you guys use for your abs? im using 228c |
| zimirken | would too thin extrusion width also cause quality problems? i was printing pla just fine but when i put in abs i got all kinds of holes and gaps in my perimeter |
| terramir_ | zimirken: abs tends to be the beast less forgiving |
| nikre | ChristianS, still can't find the line. line number? |
| terramir_ | need to ensure your actually got your e-steps and diameter right on |
| ChristianS | nikre: search for smooth_bar_diameter in box_frame/configuration.scad |
| zimirken | heh, its silly, i have less troubles printing nylon trimmer line than abs, since I hardly ever use abs |
| terramir_ | yeah abs is a learning curve, pal easy nylon even easy too compared to abs |
| terramir_ | PLA |
| terramir_ | dang spell check |
| Riverghost | hmmm |
| Riverghost | so if i can nail a good print in abs, the rest should be easy(ish) |
| terramir_ | abs is the bi**h that could once you have the experience though |
| Smidge204__ | PLA is your PAL :D |
| terramir_ | smidge204_ what bot you running |
| zimirken | yeah, theres some things id like to print in abs for heat reasons |
| Smidge204__ | i2 |
| zimirken | i dont even know why we would print in abs in the first place |
| terramir_ | yeah ABS prints tend to be heat resistant enough |
| malcom2073 | I print ABS for the heat resistance |
| nikre | ChristianS, i have just downloaded from github. could it have changed? |
| terramir_ | got binding at faster speeds on my Y |
| malcom2073 | I don't print nylon because I have a jhead and love it :) |
| terramir_ | i2 as well |
| terramir_ | jheads are my cross |
| zimirken | I have a buda and i just keep a little fan on the cooling ring and i print nylon at 255 |
| terramir_ | gave up on em except for 1.75mm PLA |
| Riverghost | jhead no good for nylom? |
| malcom2073 | jhead no good above 260? iirc |
| terramir_ | nope can't take the temp |
| zimirken | might want to get an e3d at some point though since i need more z strength in my nylon prints |
| malcom2073 | since it's got a PTFE liner |
| ChristianS | nikre: configuration.scad is not in github, you have to copy it from configuration.scad.dist irrc |
| ChristianS | nikre: and i think i'm u-to-date, but well... |
| robotustra | How the hot end on Rostock max is called? |
| terramir_ | Smidge204_ how's your binding situation right now exceeding 100mm/s and I'm dead in the water loose 100 200 steps grinding halt |
| pwillard | My head is good up to 400C, but needs a full time fan. |
| robotustra | it has 2 resistors |
| zimirken | 400c? |
| terramir_ | well folks I'm gonna try to fix both my bots today :) |
| pwillard | has no PTFE in it, all metal |
| terramir_ | Y axis on both are sort of shot |
| robotustra | pwillard: nice |
| terramir_ | still print but slow :( |
| terramir_ | very slow |
| robotustra | my head have 2 plastics in it |
| terramir_ | well I gtg |
| Riverghost | still getting .5 being extruded starno |
| terramir_ | late folks |
| Smidge204__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CZOxXMetj4 @ terramir_ |
| robotustra | I think it's PEEM and PTFE |
| Smidge204__ | No bindnig except on the X, which has since been rebuild and works great |
| starno | Riverghost: thats fine. most likely a 0.4 with shitty runout |
| starno | where did you get the nozzle? |
| terramir_ | I just missed that link |
| pwillard | has no PTFE in it, all metal, I didn't specify it in my kit, they added it (as it was in stock) |
| terramir_ | smudge send it again |
| terramir_ | plz |
| Smidge204__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CZOxXMetj4 @ terramir_ |
| Riverghost | need to not buy ebay filament i think |
| Smidge204__ | I should try that again now that I have a better hotend |
| starno | Riverghost: less likely a filament issue |
| pwillard | how the *f*ck* are you getting that speed? |
| terramir_ | smudge wtf is holding your table |
| terramir_ | i.e. holding your bearings |
| Smidge204__ | They're perss fit bronze bearings |
| terramir_ | I have a buda I should reach 200mm/s easy if I could get the rest of my bot to cooperate |
| terramir_ | no what's holding it |
| terramir_ | pretty cool |
| starno | bronze bushings are awesome |
| Smidge204__ | maybe I don't understand "what's holding it" |
| Smidge204__ | It's a Makergear i2 kit. The Y carriage is laser cut plywood. The bushings press fit into that. Friction holds them. |
| terramir_ | under the table there is some sort of frame |
| terramir_ | oh ok |
| Smidge204__ | It's the worst part of the whole machine |
| terramir_ | laterz dudes and dudettes |
| terramir_ | terramir out for now |
| reprapper | *v6 just arrived. morning |
| jeffdm_work | reprapper: v6 E3D? |
| reprapper | yes jeffdm_work |
| reprapper | have here now 3 V5 and one V6 |
| robotustra | what is this? :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3rLR6dMgw8 |
| Smidge204__ | That's a URL. It's used to direct other people to content ont he internet. |
| TBoneCam | hahaha |
| malcom2073 | Heh, calibrate calibrate calibrate! |
| malcom2073 | Why waste so much filament on a failed print? |
| TBoneCam | much waste. such fail. wow |
| robotustra | malcom2073: I ask the same question |
| robotustra | the calibration of rostock max v2 is quite easy |
| robotustra | I did only 4 iterations for delta radius |
| robotustra | but I troubleshooted end stop switches for 1 hour |
| robotustra | because they had bad contact in notmal position |
| robotustra | I think it's because they were in stock for too long |
| robotustra | and just oxidized |
| robotustra | so, I rate rostock max v2 kit as 95/100 |
| Smidge204__ | Okay, now that I watched that video... jesus what a mess |
| robotustra | Smidge204__: the other question - why to put such video on youtube :) |
| malcom2073 | kthx tell Chewy64 Your wheels broke the 10EE :) |
| kthx | malcom2073: I'll pass that on when Chewy64 is around. |
| Smidge204__ | "why to put such video on youtube" applies to 99% of Youtube |
| robotustra | Smidge204__: you are right |
| mmorning | clog? |
| kthx | clog is http://reprap.org/wiki/Clog and is also http://youtu.be/pomMbceEI7I |
| starno | robotustra: you all calibrated now? |
| robotustra | starno: yes |
| robotustra | I did according to instruction, it's described very well |
| starno | robotustra: can you print this calibration object real quick and let me know the results? https://www.dropbox.com/s/mqz6092uslanmft/delta-calibration.stl |
| starno | robotustra: I think its good enough to tell there is still more to go when the normal calibration protocol passes |
| robotustra | I'm at work now. I'm going to print fan housing for PEEK cooling |
| starno | should be 10min or so |
| robotustra | and the second print is for Layer fan |
| robotustra | after I can print whatever |
| starno | gahh, ok |
| robotustra | I just calibrated by paper |
| starno | I understand |
| starno | anyone have a well calibrated deltabot and willing to run a quick diagnostic print? |
| Arc_Tesla | any spaceX fans...heheh https://vidd.me/sk9 |
| robotustra | hm, have to install stl viewer at work |
| Smidge204__ | Search for online stl viewer |
| Smidge204__ | If all you want to do is look |
| nikre | Smidge204__, what is a good free tool to view stl files and also measure some distance on it? |
| Smidge204__ | Netfabb basic |
| nikre | ty |
| malcom2073 | Arc_Tesla: cute |
| Arc_Tesla | malcom2073 some serious Space geeks out there |
| malcom2073 | Arc_Tesla: Like you? :P |
| Arc_Tesla | ACTION rewrites |
| Arc_Tesla | malcom2073 some serious spaceX geeks out there |
| TBoneCam | hahaha |
| malcom2073 | Heh |
| starno | has anyone successfully used the "M190 R" "feature" in Marlin current? |
| nikre | m190? |
| kthx | m190 is the M-code to Wait for bed temperature to reach target temp |
| nikre | starno, what does R parameter do? |
| starno | for the life of me I cant get it to do anything |
| starno | from marlin_main.cpp |
| starno | M190 - Sxxx Wait for bed current temp to reach target temp. Waits only when heating |
| starno | // Rxxx Wait for bed current temp to reach target temp. Waits when heating and cooling |
| nikre | "m190 s" exists on default at start right? |
| starno | Im not sure what you mean |
| nikre | i have "M190 Sxx" on any gcode file i create with slic3r. i use marlin. |
| starno | if I type M190 S80 into the serial, it sets the temperature as normal. M190 R80 does not |
| nikre | hmm |
| starno | Im pretty sure its a hole in the code, does it work for you? |
| nikre | printer is busy right now. |
| nikre | are you digging the source code? |
| nikre | i can help about that |
| starno | hell no |
| robotustra | starno: what I sould do with this test? |
| starno | I would only mess something else up |
| robotustra | measure the thickness of the layers? |
| nikre | there's no big functionality game between r and s parameter |
| nikre | functionality gap* |
| starno | robotustra: print it out at normal scale and measure the x/y distances |
| starno | nikre: end goal is to set platform to 120C, wait for it to hit target, set to 50C, wait for it to hit target |
| starno | nikre: I cant get it to wait when cooling with either S or R |
| Smidge204__ | What's the purpose of doign that? |
| starno | Smidge204: lifetesting |
| nikre | well for s parameter, the definition says it works for heating only |
| Smidge204__ | Ah k |
| starno | nikre: yeah, thats in line with what Im getting too |
| nikre | starno, can you do it on pronterface? |
| nikre | i guess pronterface can do it |
| starno | im in it right now |
| robotustra | starno: what are the overall size of your test? |
| nikre | so you can set a lower target temp there right? |
| starno | nikre: yeah |
| starno | this might be working actually |
| starno | is there any reason why it wouldnt work in octoprint but would in printrun? |
| pwillard | probably more than 1 |
| starno | more than 1 reason or more than 1 set temp? |
| starno | confirmed, identical gcode, works as intended in printrun, doesnt work at all in octoprint :/ |
| robotustra | could you explain me why there are 2 sizes of filaments exists 1.75 mm and 3.0 mm? |
| robotustra | is there any other sizes? |
| Smidge204__ | Legacy! |
| starno | because ABS welding rod was manufactured at 3mm and instead of buying ABS from stratasys people sourced welding rod |
| robotustra | ok |
| robotustra | and now 1.75 is more popular? |
| Smidge204__ | It's getting there |
| robotustra | is there any difference in print with 3mm and 1.75 except the feed rate? |
| Smidge204__ | The smaller filament makes using small nozzles easier |
| malcom2073 | robotustra: 1.75 requires slightly more cooling on the cold-end of a jhead |
| robotustra | I mean the quality of print |
| starno | its advantageous, 1.75 initially became a trend over the idea of replacing stratasys filament |
| robotustra | malcom2073: I don't have Jhead |
| malcom2073 | robotustra: Can't say about other hotends, but it likely matters there to o:) |
| starno | 1.75 is more prone to humidity but is easier to handle and doesnt require as eloborate of an extruder setup to work |
| robotustra | it seems to me that heating of 3mm filament is less even than 1.75 mm |
| robotustra | ok |
| robotustra | I don't think I'll have humidity problem in Montreal |
| robotustra | It's quite dry here |
| malcom2073 | How dry is dry? les than 5%? |
| starno | robotustra: print that calib object please |
| robotustra | not today for sure |
| robotustra | tomorrow probably |
| starno | I thought my deltaradius was onpoint but that told me otherwise |
| robotustra | starno: http://repables.com/r/140/ |
| robotustra | this is a first print |
| robotustra | http://repables.com/r/212/ - should be the second print |
| robotustra | and after the test of cause |
| nullie | ды |
| robotustra | о, русиш детектед |
| starno | naz drovia |
| Wnt | Do you think this is a good electronics kit for a i3, or are the motors underpowered like some reviews suggest? http://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-Mega2560-Printer-Controller-Printers/dp/B00G20IZBS |
| ScribbleJ | A good electronics kit for an i3 is a RAMPS or a RAMBO. |
| Wnt | that is a RAMPS + motor drivers, heated bed + motors |
| robotustra | nullie: печатаем что нибудь? |
| nullie | no |
| ScribbleJ | Oh, so it is. Looks like a good deal. |
| Wnt | display, sd card reader, endstops etc. |
| robotustra | nullie: why? |
| nullie | work |
| robotustra | nullie: а принтер хоть есть? |
| starno | those motors look a bit short and there is no specs on them |
| Wnt | My current Prusa printer taller motors than those. I haven't had problems with them, but I'm not sure about those small motors |
| nullie | robotustra, rostock max |
| Wnt | starno: indeed |
| robotustra | nullie: а какая версия? |
| nullie | robotustra, 1 |
| GeoffS | Just ordered the SainSmart package for a delta (wolfstock). Not from Amazon |
| robotustra | nullie: я вчера закончил сборку кита v2 |
| nullie | robotustra, congratulations |
| robotustra | nullie: очень неплохой кит, мне понравилось в принципе, но пока не знаю как будет печатать |
| robotustra | thanks |
| nullie | robotustra, как настроишь, так и будет |
| robotustra | nullie: меня беспокоит немного хлипкость конструкции, а так в пинципе с калибровкой заморочек небыло |
| airking_ | HOWDY |
| airking_ | Whoops |
| nullie | robotustra, он геометрию немного меняет, если его переносить за стойки, а так вроде нормально |
| airking_ | Uhhhh |
| airking_ | Blockh34d, you here buddy? |
| joem_ | hi |
| airking_ | My replacement extruder parts get here today :) |
| airking_ | Hopefully I can finish my printer today |
| robotustra | nullie: ясно, буду знать, я стараюсь за основу брать, было желание проклеить основу, но не знаю хорошая ли это идея |
| nullie | robotustra, думаю лучше всего за ушки сверху подвешивать |
| robotustra | nullie: У меня нету ушек, там у второй версии сверху 2 пластины |
| robotustra | и закрытая коробка |
| phet | seen Kliment |
| kthx | Kliment was last seen in #reprap 3 days 57 min ago saying '_Patte_: _Which_ _enables_ _you_ _to_ _use_ _a_ _lot_ _of_ _materials_'. |
| Wnt | argh! Amazon is so great. After I have committed to buying a product from them they inform me: "Important Message" "There is a slight problem with your order. (See below.)" "We're sorry. This item can't be shipped to your selected destination. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order." |
| robotustra | If I'll ever build another printer it will be a delta + more rigid frame like kossel has |
| nullie | Wnt, yeah, that sucks |
| nullie | Wnt, use mail forwarder |
| Wnt | nullie: I'd rather buy from somewhere else after this kind of experience |
| robotustra | nullie: Меня кстати Николай зовут |
| joem_ | Joe Malone |
| joem_ | 8:37 AM |
| joem_ | my next 3d printer: http://i.imgur.com/PYv2tU5.jpg |
| joem_ | lol wrong window, but relevant |
| joem_ | tasty tasty 3d printed pancakes |
| malcom2073 | joem_: I want one of those :) |
| jeffdm_work | The last time I ordered from Amazon, and it wasn't until a couple days later that I realized they weren't going to ship for a month. |
| GeoffS | Wnt order direct from SianSmart - same price |
| robotustra | RifRaf: did you finish your printer without lead screws? |
| jeffdm_work | SainSmart's web price isn't always the same as elsewhere. I've seen different prices on eBay, Amazon and their own site. |
| GeoffS | I paid $219 from SainSmart, free shipping |
| t00tie | pancakes? |
| kthx | pancakes is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e82e-3MDkF8 and is also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aux0ZQJVBk lego pancake bot |
| t00tie | joem_: ^ |
| Wnt | GeoffS: yeah, I was thinking about the kit without the motors. It was a bit chaper on Amazon |
| Wnt | GeoffS: do you have a opinion about those motors? |
| joem_ | t00tie, nice |
| Wnt | well those are so cheap that I could try them out anyway... $47 for 5 motors. And the kit with the motors has a bigger display |
| GeoffS | Probably under poered but considering the price of the kit ... |
| GeoffS | I have some Inventables motors that I'll be using. |
| ScribbleJ | I've always used used motors in the past. |
| blockh34d | ACTION gradually compiles openscad |
| reprapper | wow, V6 has very nice heat transmission |
| teepee | blockh34d: still on raspi? |
| blockh34d | i am pretty sure this program uses every other program ever made as a dependancy |
| blockh34d | teepee yah thought i'd try to get the 3d preview window working |
| teepee | blockh34d: nope |
| teepee | blockh34d: I saw your messages in #openscad :) |
| dzho | -lallthethings |
| blockh34d | teepee: yah lol of course... its a big app... it's coming along, i had to crank up my virtual memeory way up |
| blockh34d | from 100 to 500 |
| teepee | blockh34d: not sure it will compile, the CGAL stuff is extremly heavy with templates |
| teepee | blockh34d: also currently it needs OpenGL 2.0, it will fail with GLES |
| blockh34d | yah its working on thecgal polyhedron object now |
| teepee | blockh34d: but it would be massively awesome if someone has a nice idea how to fix that :) |
| blockh34d | teepee: i figured i'd dump all the existing opengl stuff, makerpi vrsion that uses OpenMax and Opengles2 for display |
| teepee | but it's still GLES |
| blockh34d | should be nice and fast, not sure about sending it triangle data |
| blockh34d | rpi can handle opengles2 just fine |
| blockh34d | theres really no reason the qt ogl window shouldnt work, i don't know why it doesnt, but it doesnt |
| blockh34d | teepee: i might have to get a cross compiler setup... been putting it off forever anways but it'd definately be a faster way to compile |
| teepee | yes, raspi can, but not the current openscad code ;) |
| teepee | blockh34d: get a wandboard :P |
| blockh34d | teepee: well we'll see about that i've been doing some gamedev on rpi so i got a lot of working opengl code already to play with |
| blockh34d | never heard of it i'll check that out though thanks |
| robotustra | what plastic is most rigid? |
| robotustra | and cracky? |
| blockh34d | teepee: maybe if i can do this for openscad, there could be peace between the artists and the programmers? Could there ever be? Sometimes i wonder... the openscad docs seem very anti-artist |
| teepee | blockh34d: Oskar did some fun experiments with the OpenGL stuff in OpenSCAD too -> https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pull/675#issuecomment-46676728 |
| reprapper | best quote ever: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0cd_1295609192 |
| blockh34d | teepee: oh thanks i'll check that out... polyhedron compiled, woot... thats the one thats been giving me the most guff so far |
| blockh34d | teepee: did you know CAD as a system was invented by an artist... very well known one too, DaVinci |
| teepee | blockh34d: the idea is to look around if there's some not too heavy lib for doing the OpenGL stuff |
| blockh34d | teepee: yah that'd be nice... seems like rpi is its own little monster though... |
| teepee | blockh34d: it's not perfect for compiling stuff :) not enough memory |
| blockh34d | teepee: and omg the disk writes are SOOO SLOWWWWW |
| blockh34d | llvm took about 2 days to compile. literally |
| teepee | blockh34d: i've used the 2gb ram quadcore wandboard (which also has SATA) |
| blockh34d | teepee: oh, wandboard sounds kinda like odroid u3, which i was looking into |
| blockh34d | teepee: i have sappy reasons for liking rpi... i really like nonprofits so even if its not the best platform to use, I'm going to try to make it work anyways |
| teepee | blockh34d: odroid is even faster, but wandboard is more openhardware ;) |
| blockh34d | ACTION wants more people using happily using rpis |
| blockh34d | teepee: oh nice, open is good |
| blockh34d | yeah bumping up vmem seemed to help a lot, its chugging along now |
| blockh34d | teepee: btw i've decided not to put an outline editor into openscad directly, even though i think its a really, really good idea |
| blockh34d | it just seems so contrary to what openscad is trying to be |
| blockh34d | i do really think it'd be a great addition though |
| teepee | blockh34d: hop over to #openscad ? ;) |
| nullie | robotustra, pla is more rigid than abs |
| pwillard | and drittle |
| pwillard | brittle, rather |
| MattyMatt | it's similar strength to ABS tho, from what data I've seen, so the brittleness is just an artifact of the stiffness |
| MattyMatt | tensile strength, and I have no idea if that's yield, total, or whatevs |
| robotustra | nullie: ok |
| robotustra | pwillard: I need brittle material |
| MattyMatt | maybe someone with a filabot can make you some PLA/starch mix. that'll be more brittle, and biodegrades quicker |
| SquirrelCZECH | so filabots seems working well? |
| MattyMatt | I use the word generically. filastruder, lyman etc |
| SquirrelCZECH | me too |
| SquirrelCZECH | :) |
| MattyMatt | russ's is the best IMO, just because it's bigger and closer to a real IM screw machine |
| robotustra | I want to print violin for my kids |
| codecreations | A working one? |
| robotustra | of cause |
| codecreations | That would be cool. |
| robotustra | I'm a violin maker btw |
| MattyMatt | you can have my cat for the strings |
| codecreations | i made a violin once. :) |
| robotustra | I made 14 violins |
| robotustra | and repaired a lot |
| codecreations | robotustra: ^ http://www.thefrankes.com/wp/?p=1521 ;) |
| robotustra | and bows also |
| MattyMatt | I was actually wondering, just last night, how many violins you can make from one useless cat |
| robotustra | 0 |
| MattyMatt | and it's leftovers from the quadcopter too |
| robotustra | codecreations: this violin is not acceptable for kids who touch real one |
| codecreations | robotustra: have you ever heard of Joseph Wallo (Washing DC area luthier)? |
| codecreations | robotustra: Yes, but it's perfectly acceptiple for a kid who wands to play with a toy. :) |
| MattyMatt | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJfM23iChzs why orange propellors? you know which way is front |
| robotustra | codecreations: I don't knoe him, but I see that he is doung guitars as well |
| robotustra | I was mostly oriented to violins |
| brentru | oh baby RAMBo mini |
| codecreations | I have one of his early guitars -- I was wondering if you had an insider perspective on quality... |
| brentru | codecreations: http://i.gyazo.com/28eec9f6dd265e9f3d7a359eb0056118.png |
| robotustra | mine http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/maholet/24765393/355/355_600.jpg |
| codecreations | very cool |
| MattyMatt | I considered making ukeleles for profit, but there's no profit in cheap instruments, and too much skill needed for expensive ones even with a cnc |
| brentru | That mini looks boss |
| brentru | I wonder what the price of it is compared to a full rambo |
| robotustra | MattyMatt: yep, that's why I don't make violins in canada |
| brentru | cheaper machines if cheaper board |
| robotustra | btw, I had no problems with programming RAMBo board. Uploaded the firmware with no problem. |
| robotustra | works like a charm |
| crak | anyone with hardware autolevel? |
| brentru | yea, oly posted this yesterday |
| MattyMatt | a big cnc, a local forest full of maple etc, and a cnc carver+tuner for the backs, and I would be tempted to mass produce semi-good guitars |
| brentru | shaun413: |
| robotustra | crak: hardware? |
| shaun413 | yo sup brne |
| brentru | http://i.gyazo.com/28eec9f6dd265e9f3d7a359eb0056118.png |
| crak | servos and shit |
| shaun413 | im in love man |
| brentru | ^rambo mini boy |
| shaun413 | with this monitor |
| shaun413 | oh shit |
| brentru | kthx rambo mini is http://i.gyazo.com/28eec9f6dd265e9f3d7a359eb0056118.png sneek peek |
| kthx | brentru: Okay. |
| shaun413 | rambini |
| brentru | ^ |
| shaun413 | dude |
| brentru | ? |
| shaun413 | Ima edit some photoso on this beast |
| shaun413 | 16.7 color |
| brentru | okay... |
| brentru | cant wait until she asks for it back |
| shaun413 | she wont |
| shaun413 | why would she |
| robotustra | the next stage for me is to make soundproof housing for 3d printer as I like :) |
| shaun413 | just get some stepper dampers |
| brentru | stepper dampers? |
| kthx | stepper dampers are http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stepper-Motor-Dampers-/321345657873?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad1b19c11 |
| brentru | ^ |
| shaun413 | courtesy of rubellTech |
| robotustra | no |
| robotustra | housing will equalize temperature |
| robotustra | as well |
| robotustra | and prevet form kids poking their fingers |
| robotustra | in hotbed |
| shaun413 | get rid of the kids? |
| robotustra | too late |
| brentru | it's never too late |
| codecreations | no, shaun413 -- it's rambarduinomegaloluini |
| shaun413 | ah ok codecreations |
| shaun413 | i see |
| brentru | codecreations: do you have any updates on this board from ultimachine johnny? |
| robotustra | I think they will like to watch something is printing |
| codecreations | i do not. |
| brentru | oly posted that pic on his fb last night |
| MattyMatt | http://www.fastprinters.com/acoustic_sound_enclosures.asp |
| MattyMatt | I couldn't find a pic of the classic radioshack one |
| MattyMatt | which is cool, that one wasn't makable out of mdf |
| robotustra | brentru: oh I build my own for CNC |
| airking_ | Anyone here use octoprint? |
| robotustra | works nice |
| shaun413 | brentru, |
| brentru | ? |
| shaun413 | this is the makings of a rostock mini |
| robotustra | brentru: err not to you |
| brentru | I know that |
| brentru | shaun |
| robotustra | MattyMatt: I did my own |
| codecreations | bbl folks --> |
| MattyMatt | ah, I thought you were about to get started |
| MattyMatt | there's a cople of useful ideas to steal from those, like the brushes on the paper (filament) entry slots |
| robotustra | MattyMatt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1YfpAUzXjk |
| brentru | shaun413: this and the new spring-loaded carriages are going to prob be the romini |
| shaun413 | wait |
| shaun413 | romini is real? |
| MattyMatt | robosutra, that's like mine, but mine doesn't have so much metal in the middle :) |
| robotustra | MattyMatt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwhQ6ab06e0 |
| brentru | shaun413: the orion is real |
| shaun413 | well yes |
| shaun413 | thats not a romini |
| brentru | It's smaller than a romax |
| terramir | 177mm/s all I get on Y :( |
| shaun413 | so is an I3 |
| brentru | what would you say a romini is... |
| shaun413 | rostock mini |
| brentru | yes |
| MattyMatt | http://imgur.com/a/DNWJq#6 mine was intended to be enclosed, but I'll need a shorter Z first |
| brentru | how does it look diff from an orion? |
| terramir | matyMatt what bot you got? |
| shaun413 | well |
| shaun413 | it doesnt say orion |
| shaun413 | it says rostock mini |
| shaun413 | and a face |
| shaun413 | 8) |
| terramir | and are you using lm8uu? |
| shaun413 | see me cnc |
| MattyMatt | MattCorp DremelWielder 3000 |
| shaun413 | cmecnc |
| terramir | huh |
| terramir | Matt? |
| brentru | shaun413: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE2dbznXUx8 |
| brentru | orion |
| brentru | in action |
| MattyMatt | I found some more old pics. I'lll add them to that album |
| brentru | feat: john |
| terramir | matty? |
| terramir | you using lm8uu? |
| brentru | almost 1mo away from MF Detroit and SeeMe |
| brentru | whoo |
| brentru | newark is cheaper than jfk... |
| brentru | delta has some $381 flights though from JFK... |
| NETio | hmm, awoke to first failed print in a long time |
| brentru | dang |
| brentru | how bad was the flop? |
| shaun413 | brentru, this is only 1080p |
| shaun413 | looks crappy |
| brentru | lol |
| shaun413 | say that 5 years ago |
| brentru | shaun413: you have a 4k-capable camera? |
| brentru | tell me more shane, tell me more |
| terramir | Matty I'm trying to figure something out and I was wondering if you have something simular to a mendel |
| shaun413 | for video? |
| brentru | Yes |
| brentru | for video |
| shaun413 | no |
| terramir | NETio: when you had your prusa2 did you use lm8uu |
| shaun413 | its 1080p |
| brentru | i4? |
| kthx | i4 is in the works for 2014 |
| shaun413 | brentru, |
| brentru | . |
| shaun413 | kthx, forget i4 |
| kthx | shaun413: I've forgotten about i4. |
| terramir | :( used to be you could ask questions here |
| shaun413 | kthx, i4 is in the works for 2014, and will be a mass produced sheet metal printer. |
| kthx | shaun413: Okay. |
| terramir | i4? |
| kthx | i4 is in the works for 2014, and will be a mass produced sheet metal printer. |
| brentru | when did josef say that |
| terramir | on twitter a few days ago |
| pwillard | ACTION dislikes the sheet metal machines. |
| shaun413 | twitter a few weeks ago |
| brentru | https://github.com/josefprusa/Prusa4 |
| brentru | ACTION shakes a metal printrbot simple in pwillard's face |
| terramir | kthx i4 will also not be able to be home built |
| shaun413 | kthx, i4 is also not a self built reprap. |
| kthx | shaun413: Okay. |
| brentru | Oh shaun |
| shaun413 | i4? |
| kthx | i4 is in the works for 2014, and will be a mass produced sheet metal printer. and is also not a self built reprap. |
| terramir | grrr |
| terramir | dude |
| shaun413 | what |
| brentru | i4 is also 15x15x30cm build volume, PLA, and inexpensive |
| terramir | I was doing it |
| brentru | https://twitter.com/josefprusa/status/476264233500676096 |
| shaun413 | 700 dollars |
| terramir | be polite |
| shaun413 | i typed before i saw |
| shaun413 | my deepest appologies |
| brentru | Where is he saying 700 shane |
| brentru | WHERE |
| shaun413 | twittar |
| terramir | I gotta tell you 700 bucks sheet metal I'm scared |
| jglauche | terramir: I'd be scared if he could deliver |
| recon_lap | calculator |
| recon_lap | calculator? |
| kthx | calculator is http://calculator.josefprusa.cz/ Sweet and hip version 3 is now online!! an http://calculator.josefprusa.cz/old/ and is also http://nathan7.eu/stuff/RepRapCalculator/RepRapCalculator.html#ExtrusionSF40 |
| brentru | under $700 |
| jeffdm_work | Hmmm, the post wasn't dated April 1. |
| brentru | shaun |
| shaun413 | brentru |
| brentru | https://twitter.com/josefprusa/status/476257167759396864 |
| brentru | So i4 plan. Sheet metal, bowden, 1,75mm, easy to mass manufacture not self built unfortunately, but I hope for under $700 final cost |
| shaun413 | yessir |
| bill2or3 | repless-rap |
| shaun413 | yes |
| shaun413 | hes just trying to make money now |
| TheSchaf | !seen josefprusa |
| crak | which is normal |
| jglauche | that was not my impression last time I visited him |
| TheSchaf | when was last time he was in irc? |
| brentru | yea shaun |
| terramir | jglauche deliver yes |
| brentru | you're wrong |
| jeffdm_work | Maybe June 10 is one of those "joke" days in the Czech republic? |
| brentru | he doesnt want to make money, he wants to make it accessible |
| terramir | but will it be as good as the i3 |
| brentru | the sheet metal machines are REALLY good |
| crak | it should be even better |
| brentru | there's only two out right now and they are fantastic |
| brentru | Ultimaker 2 |
| brentru | PB Simple |
| brentru | er, Simple Metal |
| terramir | jglauche: you old school I remember you from way back when |
| brentru | They are rigid AF and are extremely repeatable |
| crak | more repeatability |
| brentru | ^ |
| jglauche | terramir: yes, same. |
| terramir | need some trouble shooting help |
| MattyMatt | terramir, it may not be obvious, but MattyMill Mk1 is actually inspired by mendel, in particular Ed Sells' video about it http://imgur.com/a/DNWJq#0 |
| jglauche | go ahead |
| terramir | been out of the game too long rusty |
| terramir | lm8uu on y bed max speed usually? |
| terramir | b4 it starts stalling |
| MattyMatt | drawer slides |
| terramir | yeah not what I got right now |
| terramir | but cool |
| MattyMatt | the balls don't have to go round corners on a drawer slide |
| jglauche | terramir: depends on your smooth rod quality, lm8uu quality, paralellism of your Y rods, belt tension, motor specs and motor current |
| terramir | yeah right now trying to fix the y axis |
| jglauche | on what machine? |
| terramir | got a frak'ed up distance right now 136.3 between smooth rods |
| MattyMatt | I'm wondering why more machines don't use non-recirculating balls. the only disadvantage is they get exposed to air and dust |
| terramir | prusa2 |
| jglauche | terramir: make absolutely sure that the y rods are paralell to max 0.1mm |
| terramir | gt2 and those 4mm shaft motors ohmeye uses |
| terramir | they are but I might be tweaking things |
| jglauche | so can you move it by hand easily? |
| terramir | like I dunno the exact distance |
| terramir | not while the belt is tight |
| jglauche | does the belt get stuck somewhere? |
| terramir | deep boing instead of high pitched |
| terramir | no not stuck belt is ok just thinkinking I dun have the distance right yet |
| jglauche | distance of what? |
| recon_lap | terramir: have you printed one of those adjustable y bearing holders? |
| terramir | at 175 the sound it ok at 180mm/s in starts to sound like it's binding but still moving |
| terramir | the smooth rods |
| jglauche | 175 is not too bad |
| terramir | not sure what the right distance is somewhere between 135.5 and 137 I'm thinking |
| jglauche | that can be specific to your y plate |
| terramir | trying to determine the right distance by maxing out the speed |
| terramir | yeah I know but the exact number I dun remember |
| jglauche | you should upgrade to i3 :) |
| terramir | dam I;m gonna have to open psu |
| terramir | toomuch dust fan stalling |
| terramir | actually planning on finishing the i3 I got in the closet lol |
| terramir | AFTER I FIX THESE BOTS |
| terramir | oops |
| chris33 | So prusa will be opting out open source for the i4 |
| bill2or3 | chriss33: nothing has suggested that. |
| codecreations | i4 is also not simply i3+1 because that's not how the math works -- it's (3+1)(sqrt(-1)) |
| terramir | not opting out of open source just opting out of designing it so you can build it yourself unless you got a factory |
| chris33 | Sheet metal printer mass produced |
| bill2or3 | right, but that's not the same thing as closed source. |
| jglauche | Kliment: font printed out very nicely http://jglauche.tumblr.com/post/89663515866/making-silicone-molds-for-body-melts-with |
| MattyMatt | loetmichel could make one. he's ace at metalbending |
| terramir | jglauche: what's the max I should get on y optimally with lm8uu |
| jglauche | terramir: I'd say the values you get are fine |
| chris33 | So for instance instead of trying to make it easier for someone build it you can but you need a press brake |
| jglauche | terramir: and I would not dare to drive an i2 higher than 120mm/s |
| terramir | \gonna go up and down with the distance and slow steps till I find the max I need to figure out the right rod spacing |
| Loetmichel | MattyMatt: i dont even have a bending brake ;-) |
| blockh34d | is SLS home hobbyist DIY friendly or not at all yet? |
| chris33 | Lol |
| MattyMatt | press brake is a luxury, you can do all the bending you need with some angle iron and clamps |
| chris33 | Yed but it not simple its actually reverse engineered |
| blockh34d | chris33: me? re sls? |
| chris33 | Going backwards instead of forwards |
| terramir | jglauche: not for printing just to determine the optimal distance between rods |
| Loetmichel | MattyMatt: i usually use my hands |
| terramir | for my bed |
| Loetmichel | onle very small flanges i moint int the vice to bend |
| Loetmichel | mount |
| Loetmichel | only |
| blockh34d | i keep thinking of making a brake here with some of this giant angle iron i scrapped and my welder |
| blockh34d | anyone know any particuarlly nice DIY plans for that sorta thing? |
| MattyMatt | there's some good vids on YT |
| blockh34d | sounds easy i might just wing it |
| blockh34d | cool i'll have to check that out when i 'm done failing to compile openscad |
| terramir | Iif I had a welder I'd be done with my brake making it out of old bed frames |
| terramir | and old school door hinges |
| blockh34d | terramir: oh thats a good idea, i have a little hill of old bed frames out back |
| blockh34d | i planned on making the hinge out of pipe cuts and allthread though |
| blockh34d | ever tried that? |
| Loetmichel | blockh34d: i just bought a used "knee press" that will be used as a bending press soon. (when i get the time to make the V-tools and knifes for it) |
| blockh34d | basically like making one of those door hings |
| jeffdm_home | It's probably just one of those things that's more practical to buy from someone that makes dozens or hundreds of kits at a time. |
| Loetmichel | http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14469 |
| terramir | screw like three or four layers together |
| jeffdm_home | It's also possible to make circuits at home, but people generally tend to just buy those too. |
| terramir | I dun have a welder but seen it online |
| blockh34d | Loetmichel: cool, i can't click link right now though i probably shouldnt even be running x |
| Loetmichel | ... it can do 750kN ;-) |
| terramir | well time to clean psu |
| blockh34d | terramir: gl, btw maybe soon me and a friend make diy welder tut :) |
| blockh34d | i think everyone should have a welder |
| blockh34d | with some printed parts, maybe we can make it like a mig |
| jeffdm_home | Not unless they're willing to spend the time to get good at welding. |
| terramir | I want an hydroxy welder |
| terramir | :)( |
| terramir | :) |
| chris33 | Yeah if i had a welder everything would be welded together |
| MattyMatt | blockh34d, this is one of the better vids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ewJb6I_4E |
| blockh34d | hey great thanks MattyMatt |
| blockh34d | i'll have to grab that later though, i have the beginning saved for now so i know what to get when all my disk isnt in use |
| blockh34d | right now i have almost all avail diskspace turned into swap for compile |
| blockh34d | really need to just get cross-compiling setup |
| blockh34d | ughh too many ideas not enough time... diy mig sounds pretty epic, and not that hard |
| blockh34d | anyone else think thats neat, want to try it? maybe we combine forces, captain planet style |
| Loetmichel | i would go for a combi |
| blockh34d | plasma cutter/mig? |
| NETio | terramir: No. I used precision brass bushings |
| Loetmichel | Mig/mag/mma/tig/plasma |
| Loetmichel | that would be nice |
| blockh34d | Loetmichel: hell ya it would |
| Loetmichel | and smps |
| Loetmichel | so carry around style |
| blockh34d | yah definately man that'd be great |
| NETio | terramir: Was a very nice machine, except for the z-wobble and inherent problems with the i2 like moving the whole bed and also had a warped wooden bed. The build height limited me alot too |
| MattyMatt | like in ghostbusters? |
| blockh34d | or maybe wheel it around even, if it was big at first |
| blockh34d | but i bet it could be packed into basically a suitcase, sure |
| NETio | I know what MIG/TIG/Plasma are |
| Loetmichel | no, i meant like the little smps mma welders |
| blockh34d | Loetmichel: man you'd be way better at that than me, what do you think about spearheading something like that? |
| Loetmichel | http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=9184 |
| blockh34d | Loetmichel: i could help, maybe, i dunno how but maybe we figure it out |
| NETio | ok, so in welding SMPS is just switching mode power supply |
| blockh34d | i just look at that extruder and think 'thats most of a mig'... hell the hotend is even real similar to the tip of a mig |
| Loetmichel | something like that, 80-120A, small gas bottle in the back drive for the migmag wire, hf ignition for tig and plasma... and a few mor plug options on the front. |
| Loetmichel | DONE ;-) |
| MattyMatt | what about that kind that dentists use? the arc is in a waterjet so it can do fine welds on stainless wire etc |
| NETio | dentists use welders O.o |
| blockh34d | Loetmichel: yah thats how my MIG is, pretty small, easy to carry around... not really the deepest welds but its not bad |
| blockh34d | yeah welding dentists is pretty terrifying |
| blockh34d | thats right outta little shop of horrors |
| Loetmichel | NETio: i've seen dentists use laser welders! |
| NETio | the day I see my dentist walk in with a welder is the day I run out of there screaming |
| Smidge204__ | http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Dogwelder%201.jpg |
| macegr | are you thinking of doing a kickstarter for a MiG welding pen? |
| macegr | just string together some supernatural tech requirements and the money will roll in |
| bill2or3 | 3dooweldeler |
| blockh34d | Loetmichel: what if i more or less plan out the goal/docs/illustrations/bs of a project like that, and you keep an eye on process/schematics/etc to make sure it works and is what you think it should be? |
| macegr | people will believe anything after Iron Man |
| blockh34d | Loetmichel: i think it'd be great so if you're into making that happen, however you prefer lemme know we'll get started |
| NETio | You could make it use those little airsoft CO2 canisters |
| NETio | Like 9gram canisters |
| MattyMatt | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hodh_fGH-ds this one looks like a single shot EDM machine, but presumambly with current going the other way (or maybe not as they don't want contamination in the weld) |
| blockh34d | same to everyone actually |
| NETio | Hmm, what if I made a kickstarted for a "welding pen" and in fact it was just a soldering pen... sketchy but profitable |
| blockh34d | 'cold fusion pen' |
| NETio | yeah, the tip can be tocuhed immediately after use too |
| blockh34d | they'd buy it, all day |
| macegr | literally a pencil torch off the shelf |
| MattyMatt | aka glue stick |
| NETio | lol |
| blockh34d | NETio: yes but your electronics will never work again |
| NETio | cold heat was terrible |
| blockh34d | NETio: what a horrible soldering iron don't every use that cold shit its just the worst |
| airking_ | blockh34d: whazzup |
| blockh34d | 'yeah, so we short a giant charge into some graphite here!!!! and then.... ________ and then... PROFIT!!' |
| NETio | someone bought me one as a gift, I used it like 4 times, broke the tip. I also knew if I touched it to anything electronic it'd likely kill it. It's the opposite of ESD-safe. I like my Hakko 936 clone (Yihua brand I think) |
| blockh34d | airking_: nomuch hows it going |
| NETio | never made a good joint with it either |
| NETio | cold joints every time |
| macegr | *sigh* like a sloppy, dirty boy i decided to leave dangling filament during my auto level sequence...of course, the probe swivels down and exactly pokes the loose filament |
| airking_ | blockh34d: pretty well, should be able to finish my printer today |
| blockh34d | airking_: awesome, which one again? kinda bad memory here |
| airking_ | Same as yours i3v |
| airking_ | Makerfarm. |
| codecreations | seen reifsnyderb |
| kthx | reifsnyderb was last seen in #reprap 3 days 28 min ago saying '_seen_ _j_glauche_?'. |
| blockh34d | airking_: oh ok great, so you've got the frame built and you're onto the electronics now? |
| airking_ | blockh34d: yup, had to wait on replacement extruder block and idler, they were slightly warped. Colin sent replacements |
| blockh34d | airking_: oh thats right i remember now... yah hey great glad to hear they got you took care of, i'm not surprised they were always quick and responsive when i needed help too. |
| blockh34d | airking_: have you been watching the videos closely before actually doing them? highly recommended. |
| airking_ | blockh34d: yup |
| blockh34d | well good luck! i'd make sure some things are nice and good now before you do much more, like that your carraige is well aligned onto its railes, and the platter too... it shouldnt be looser on one side or another, or overly stiff anywhere |
| macegr | I can now confirm there is a big difference in first layer hold, between regular elmer's glue stick, purple disappearing stick, and extra strength |
| macegr | Definitely use Extra Strength glue stick for nylon |
| blockh34d | macegr: noted, what is the stickiness of each? |
| Zelfje | pong |
| macegr | first two are around the same |
| blockh34d | so you use the extra strength on what, blue tape? or glass? |
| airking_ | Blockh34d: Yep, I made sure belt tension and the eccentric spacers were all right before I moved on, less work to do later. |
| macegr | glass |
| blockh34d | airking_: yes and their easier to get to without the electronics |
| macegr | i stopped using blue tape after i removed my first print ever on glass |
| macegr | I don't understand why anyone uses blue tape or kapton now if they have the option to install glass |
| blockh34d | airking_: hey you might want to take a close look at your extruder and make sure its larger gear is carefully on there to have just enough play it stays a little loose, then take its jamnuts and make sure they are crazy super tight into each other but not the larger gear. I found the larger gear would bind itself to the extruder if those jamnuts aren't crazy tight |
| macegr | I don't have jam nuts...just washers and nyloc |
| blockh34d | macegr: yah i've wondered but sometimes i hear about 'it only sepearted fromt eh glass easy at first, then it changed and now its a pain in the ass' so i've been sticking to the tape for now |
| blockh34d | also i've found nylon fused to tape is crazy strong even almost paper thin |
| blockh34d | for gliders and ultralight stuff |
| macegr | i don't want a difficult to apply consumable |
| macegr | i've never used straight heated glass |
| jeffdm_home | macegr, I don't think anyone does, but direct to glass only worked a big for me. |
| blockh34d | yah i'm just expirimenting and stuff here, no real set standard just seeing what works |
| NETio | macegr: Because a lot of us don't get good results with ABS on glass |
| macegr | when i print ABS on glass i use ABS juice |
| jeffdm_home | Direct to glass with ABS risks pulling up bits of the glass. |
| macegr | ....and i heat the glass. |
| NETio | Yeah, that's why I got phenolic for Nylon after seeing a picture of a shattered sheet of borosilicate glass that had nylon printed on it with gluestick |
| NETio | and I've heard of people pulling chunks of glass out when they use ABS Juice |
| ScribbleJ | 45 minutes in to a good print. Power goes out for five minutes. |
| macegr | sticky stuff pulling up bits of glass is actually a very old technique for decorative glasswork |
| ScribbleJ | :( |
| macegr | NETio: I haven't printed 618 on glass |
| macegr | just on garolite |
| macegr | Bridge is working great on glass but i'm doing small parts |
| NETio | Neither have I. I use phenolic (xx-grade) which is like garolite |
| NETio | I print mainly with trimmer line nylon. It's cheap |
| macegr | i have a 12x12x1/4 slab of garolite |
| NETio | I have a 12x12x0.365 slab of XX-Grade Mil-Spec Phenolic |
| macegr | it's cool stuff |
| macegr | i'm willing to pay a small premium for trouble free printing |
| NETio | nylon sticks too good so I use a very light coat of gluestick to decrease adhesion. Think I'm going to try backing down temperatures. Been using 65-70C for it, I've heard 45-50C is good since it's near the glass transition temp of 47C |
| macegr | i don't buy shit filament, but neither do i buy Diamond Age |
| robotustra | Who ever user UPS with printers? |
| malcom2073 | hangout? |
| kthx | hangout is a persistent audio and video chat room, open 24/7. http://tinyurl.com/om9vtre - Requires a google login. (Blame Canada) |
| robotustra | *use |
| NETio | macegr: I use phenolic for Nylon and PEI for ABS now. Loving the PEI so far |
| Blob | Which side of the heated bed pcb faces up when using with glass bed, the side with lines, or the flat side? |
| NETio | I've printed 3 parts that I had to use brims with on glass w/ hairsrpay and still got a tiny bit of warping. No warping on the PEI |
| NETio | and no brim :D |
| NETio | Blob: I use the heating elements facing up |
| NETio | Blob: "Lines" side up |
| Blob | NETio: Thanks, that's what I thought. |
| macegr | i'm honestly not going to be printing as much ABS |
| reprapper | i dont understand why e3d keeps on using those tiny thermistors instead of the large ones |
| NETio | PEI works amazing for PLA too, but IME so does simple bare glass |
| macegr | i didn't bother with bare glass |
| NETio | I don't print much PLA, haven't got it working well through the E3D v5 yet to be honest |
| macegr | i don't want to clean the printbed all the time, i run an assembly line here |
| macegr | print 10 parts, give it a cursory scrape with a razor and a thin refresher coat of glue stick, hit print again |
| macegr | don't even take off the leftover glue, just smooth out any bumps really |
| robotustra | what is PEI? |
| recon_lap | PEI? |
| kthx | PEI is http://www.mcmaster.com/#ultem/=m91fr5 and is also http://kuehlingkuehling.de/2013/04/02/development-roundup-metal-hotends-new-print-surface-rjmp-linear-bearings-watercooling/ and is also http://www.amazonsupply.com/dp/B00CPRDDLY |
| BubbleRep | what large ones reprapper? |
| robotustra | ok |
| NETio | kthx: PEI is also a reusable maintenance free build surface for both ABS and PLA (only for heated beds). You can laminate 0.030" or 0.040" thick PEI onto glass with 3M 468MP adhesive tape. |
| kthx | NETio: Okay. |
| NETio | PEI? |
| kthx | PEI is http://www.mcmaster.com/#ultem/=m91fr5 and is also http://kuehlingkuehling.de/2013/04/02/development-roundup-metal-hotends-new-print-surface-rjmp-linear-bearings-watercooling/ and is also http://www.amazonsupply.com/dp/B00CPRDDLY and is also a reusable maintenance free build surface for both ABS and PLA (only for heated beds). You can laminate 0.030" or 0.040" thick PEI onto glass with 3M 468MP adhesive tape. |
| starno | anyone have video or photos of ABS on PEI? |
| starno | NETio: whats the biggest hting you have printing in ABS without a brim? |
| mutley_ | reprapper: and i dont understand why the lord made us a flat planet |
| robotustra | mutley_: :) |
| mastag25 | anyone know some bottles or something I can put ABS juice in? |
| MattyMatt | glass is good |
| MattyMatt | jam jar |
| MattyMatt | with a metal screw top lid, although the plastic lining will propably rot out |
| robotustra | I think aceton does not dissolve Polyethilen bottlse also |
| MattyMatt | yeah acetone comes in PE afaict |
| robotustra | it can be a bottle from PVA glue |
| macegr | https://twitter.com/macegr/status/480907439248658433 |
| robotustra | to squirt a bit on glass and spread it over surface |
| robotustra | ppl use twitter? |
| macegr | Your mom does....oh hmm |
| macegr | robotustra: Sorry I don't have you on snapchat |
| robotustra | my mom doesn't know that is internet |
| macegr | and i am also not a 17 year old girl |
| macegr | I think Twitter has a better user experience for photos than Flickr at this point |
| robotustra | twitter, facebook, g+ are useless stuff for me |
| robotustra | I don't understand what is "user experience" with respect to website |
| robotustra | especially when peolpe talk about "better" |
| macegr | The experience that you, a user, has while accessing and performing tasks with the website |
| robotustra | actually, I'm not going to be a user of such sites, becasue the whole idea of colial networking is fail for me |
| robotustra | social |
| mastag25 | <robotustra> to squirt a bit on glass and spread it over surface |
| mastag25 | elmer's glue + acetone? |
| robotustra | abs 30% + acetone |
| robotustra | somebody told that it's a good proportion |
| graphicsforge | it's effective under a wide tolerance of ratios |
| robotustra | graphicsforge: you mean if I'm going to print 0.1 mm layer abs + acetone is not good choise? |
| graphicsforge | oh, I mean to say you don't need to worry about hitting 1part abs to 2parts acetone |
| reprapper | mutley: i also have no clue |
| robotustra | ok |
| malcom2073 | mastag25: I use a pyrex container with rubber lid for my abs+acetone mix |
| mastag25 | pyrex? |
| reprapper | bubblerep: ? |
| malcom2073 | mastag25: it's a kind of glass |
| malcom2073 | cookware |
| malcom2073 | the nice thing is the rubber lid |
| mastag25 | oh |
| mastag25 | the lid can take acentone without being eaten? |
| malcom2073 | Yep |
| BubbleRep | reprapper | i dont understand why e3d keeps on using those tiny thermistors instead of the large ones <- you should remember what you said 5 minutes earlier :P |
| robotustra | I have an idea |
| zimirken | threaded heat inserts for plastic are so wonderful |
| robotustra | why not to use nichrome wire in the hot end |
| malcom2073 | robotustra: early hotends did that |
| malcom2073 | heater cartridge is much better though, easier to design around, better heat transfer, etc |
| zimirken | SAFER |
| robotustra | ok |
| robotustra | it was bad idea so |
| malcom2073 | Nah not bad, like I said the origonal hotends used nichrome wire to heat them up |
| malcom2073 | But there are better methods nowadays :) |
| robotustra | yeah, possible |
| mastag25 | http://www.amazon.com/World-Kitchen-Pyrex-6-Piece-Storage/dp/B005JCYSWA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1403545611&sr=8-7&keywords=pyrex |
| zaubara | guys, any clue why my kossel (ramps, johanns marlin) freezes for 2-5 seconds randomly mid print? :/ didnt do that yesterday... |
| mastag25 | that work OK/ |
| mastag25 | ? |
| jeffdm_work | I think it was more like the original reprappers didn't know what was available to them. It might be also that they were prohibitively expensive. |
| malcom2073 | mastag25: those look VERY close to identical to the ones I have |
| malcom2073 | zaubara: running out of serial buffer perhaps? |
| malcom2073 | What program are you using to send gcode? |
| MattyMatt | I've heard nichrome heatcores are still slightly better. the issue is the trouble to make them, and the exotic adhesives you need |
| zaubara | malcom2073: thanks :) erm, possibly, how do i check that? is that the space left on the device arduino tells me after uploading? i'm using cura at the moment |
| malcom2073 | zaubara: Oh you're printing from SD? |
| zaubara | malcom2073: oh, no, cura via usb. i meant the space left on the device after uploading the firmware |
| malcom2073 | zaubara: no, I mean space left when sending gcode. not familair with Cura, so I don't know if it will let you know if the buffer is getting low or not |
| MattyMatt | mastag be careful buying Pyrex brand cookware from the US factory. they don't always use boro these days |
| mastag25 | :( |
| mastag25 | recommend something else? |
| MattyMatt | and as a result, there are horror stories about exploding casseroles |
| zaubara | malcom2073: ok :) cura uses printrun it looks like; what tool does tell me a low buffer? |
| ScribbleJ | http://i.imgur.com/FNe14cM.jpg |
| malcom2073 | zaubara: Not that familair with printrun either, though pronterface uses it,and wil ltell you in its text window |
| malcom2073 | ScribbleJ: nice, run on smooth rod? |
| mastag25 | exploding casseroles ? |
| mastag25 | wtf? |
| Smidge204__ | MattyMatt: That's because Pyrex is no longer a Corning brand :/ |
| Smidge204__ | New stuff with the "Pyrex" label is just soda lime glass and not nearly as resistant to heat shock |
| ccecil | "Pyrex" is soda lime glass now |
| ScribbleJ | malcom2073, no, they're for managing the belt path on a core xy printer design. |
| mastag25 | i was going to use it for abs juice only |
| malcom2073 | ScribbleJ: Ah cool |
| ccecil | Smidge204__: :) |
| Smidge204__ | :p |
| mastag25 | its not going into anything else |
| Smidge204__ | Shit's whack, yo |
| malcom2073 | Yeah I wouldn't trust it for heat, but should be fine for abs juice. Double check and test the lids for acetone resistance first though |
| malcom2073 | Mine are really old, so who knows if they changed |
| ccecil | Smidge204__: I was reading something about the effect the switch to soda lime glass had on the crack trade :) |
| zaubara | malcom2073: looks like thats not the problem then: http://imgur.com/8xIr6vQ the numbers are just from the g29, auto leveling |
| Smidge204__ | hahaha |
| ccecil | Smidge204__: exploding kitchenware |
| malcom2073 | zaubara: ah hmm, don't know then |
| Smidge204__ | Should be getting boro lab-grade stuff anyway. |
| zaubara | malcom2073: k, thanks anyways :) |
| malcom2073 | zaubara: Yourunning at 250k baud? |
| zaubara | malcom2073: i think so? at the start it tells me its detecting the baudrate, but it doesnt tell me which it actually uses |
| reprapper | bubblerep: ah, sory i smoked too many trinitylabs bongs, so my bain isnt that fine anymore |
| malcom2073 | zaubara: if defaults, then yeah |
| malcom2073 | zaubara: You can enable debugging of sorts in printrun I think, see the actual gcode it is sending, see if when it pauses, it's still sending gcode |
| malcom2073 | or ifit stops responding entirely when it pauses |
| mastag25 | i dont need to worry about acetone after the initial breakdown of the ABS right |
| mastag25 | since it's just a sludge after that |
| reifsnyderb | seen codecreations ? |
| kthx | codecreations was last seen in #reprap 1 hour 12 min ago saying '_seen_ _r_eifsnyderb_'. |
| malcom2073 | mastag25: I'd keep it in a sealed container, but otherwise what do you mean? |
| mastag25 | i just mean that it wont be acetone anymore so it wont eat away anything covering it since it's just abs sludge |
| malcom2073 | mastag25: No, it'll still be acetone |
| malcom2073 | partially |
| malcom2073 | just with dissolved ABS in it :) |
| mastag25 | i thought the acetone evaporated |
| malcom2073 | It does eventually, but that'll leave you with hard abs |
| malcom2073 | you want sludge, which is acetone and abs |
| mastag25 | ah |
| MattyMatt | when all the acetone is gone, you'll have a hard lump of ABS |
| mastag25 | i just dont want to buy the bowls if they arent going to work ya know |
| MattyMatt | use a jam jar |
| MattyMatt | or PB |
| MattyMatt | or nutella, although I think they're all plastic these days |
| mastag25 | yea |
| mastag25 | i dont know any PB in glass either heh |
| MattyMatt | nescafe jars are all glass here |
| MattyMatt | and they are a good shape for non-drop |
| MattyMatt | I suspect the lids are ABS tho |
| mastag25 | http://www.amazon.com/Ball-Quilted-Jelly-Canning-Pack/dp/B000VTSYA8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403546721&sr=8-1&keywords=empty+jelly+jars |
| mastag25 | not sure if there's anything on the lids |
| MattyMatt | they (used to) have natural red rubber grommets |
| MattyMatt | gaskets |
| MattyMatt | 4oz is puny |
| Smidge204__ | Quilted for extra... softness? |
| Smidge204__ | I'm guessing you're looking for a container to do vapor treatment in |
| Smidge204__ | 'cause I missed the beginning of this, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna scroll up now |
| MattyMatt | just for storage of excess abs sludge |
| Smidge204__ | Ah |
| MattyMatt | not something I'd pay good money for, while all this food packaging goes in the bin every day |
| Smidge204__ | Just about any jar will do |
| MattyMatt | or PET bottle |
| MattyMatt | have a coke and a smile |
| jdiez | so I got the 12V lead acid battery for my printer |
| jdiez | now I don't have a 18 DC PSU for the charger circuit |
| jdiez | ACTION facepalms |
| Smidge204__ | Plastic jars (eg peanutbutter) are PET |
| mutley_ | crunchy or smooth |
| Smidge204__ | Yes |
| mutley_ | lol |
| MattyMatt | I'm on the smooth until I print some teeth |
| mutley_ | jdiez: dont forget the charger |
| recon_lap | jdiez: laptop power brick? |
| jdiez | recon_lap: none of them that I found at home go to 18V |
| mutley_ | jdiez: halfords |
| jdiez | im in spain mutley_ |
| recon_lap | jdiez: though 18v was pretty common for laptops |
| mutley_ | halfordos then |
| robotustra | jdiez: :) |
| jdiez | mutley_: lol |
| mastag25 | heh |
| mutley_ | :) |
| Smidge204__ | Why do you need 18V for a 12V Pb battery? |
| MattyMatt | 19V is commoner |
| mastag25 | coworker just had a pyrex thing delivered from amazon |
| jdiez | recon_lap: i might find some of those regulable power supplies |
| mastag25 | the lid says bpa free |
| mastag25 | does that help at all |
| jdiez | Smidge204__: for the charger circuit I'm gonna build, to compensate for the regulator vdrop |
| MattyMatt | mastag, the ad says that. all that says is it isn't PET probably |
| recon_lap | pff, 19v is close enough to 18v :) |
| jdiez | yeah, 19v is close enough |
| Smidge204__ | regulator has >4v drop? Most Pb batts charge at like 14V right? |
| mutley_ | ok so me is getting e shit sorted out |
| jdiez | but I don't have those either |
| jdiez | Smidge204__: it's less than 4v, and yes, it does charge at 14.4V |
| mutley_ | then me gets handed another shovel of shit out of nowhere |
| Smidge204__ | k |
| mutley_ | but not stopping me shippy |
| jdiez | can't find the darn datasheet |
| recon_lap | mutley_: dont forget to sort those menus out :) |
| Guest95543 | hey, i'm facing a problem with my heatbed. It constantly overheat despite the thermistor works... has anyone ever faced same sort of problems? |
| mutley_ | recon_lap: the shovel is over there, just place iit on top |
| mutley_ | ;p |
| mutley_ | lol usually people complain their heatbed wont get up to temp |
| Smidge204__ | Guest27358: Define "overheat" - like, it overshoots, or does it get to the verge of causing a fire? |
| recon_lap | mutley_: it an easy fix, just do a button menu or a dropdown , not a bit of both in the menu |
| mutley_ | ahh yes talking of which, prusa heatbeds start to go dark when set to 140 |
| mutley_ | ive got a nice dark red pcb heatbed now |
| mutley_ | recon_lap: i know, ill get there in the end |
| jdiez | lol mutley_ |
| Guest95543 | I was first using my printer with ATX 12V power supply but I chanced it now to 24V screwterminal power supply and this started to happend |
| jdiez | oh that's a pretty good idea Guest95543 |
| jdiez | I could use an atx power supply to get my 18V |
| jdiez | GENIUS |
| Smidge204__ | Guest95543": Okay yeah that makes sense. Double the voltage means FOUR TIMES the power. |
| Smidge204__ | Guest95543: So you can go into your firmware and reduce the max PID rate, then retune |
| mutley_ | but jdiez atx will give you the 12v you need no? |
| jdiez | mutley_: yes but I need at least ~16-17V |
| Smidge204__ | Or, if you have a newer PCB heatbed, it might ahve a 24V wiring configuration |
| jdiez | that's going straight to the regulator |
| Guest95543 | all was well with ATX 12V and all was well |
| mutley_ | ahhh so captain lo |
| mastag25 | is it made for 24v? |
| MattyMatt | jdiez, lead acid chargers don't need regulators much |
| Smidge204__ | Guest95543: Like I said, 2X the voltage equals 4X the power. |
| mutley_ | Sly and Robbie once had a huge hit with Fire, i dont think this will be the same though |
| Smidge204__ | So it's goign to heat up super duper quick |
| jdiez | MattyMatt: I'm building a smart-ish regulator, that will feed the battery 14.5V when it's not fully charged an float-charge it otherwise |
| mutley_ | but jdiez isnt that what a battery charger does? |
| mutley_ | ;p |
| jdiez | (float-charging being 13.5V I think) |
| jdiez | mutley_: yes, i'm building one :P |
| mutley_ | ahh gotcha halfordos is closed then heh |
| mutley_ | i love this place |
| jdiez | nah, I want to learn how they work |
| jdiez | so I'm gonna build one |
| mutley_ | ok fair comment |
| mutley_ | shall i get popcorn seeds ready for the hot plate? |
| jdiez | hehe |
| jdiez | goddamn internet |
| mutley_ | so apparently the I4 iis released or close to released according to JP on twitter |
| jdiez | i4? |
| kthx | i4 is in the works for 2014, and will be a mass produced sheet metal printer. and is also not a self built reprap. |
| mutley_ | yea |
| jdiez | >not a self built reprap |
| jdiez | :( |
| MattyMatt | Guest95543, with ramps, you can run the heatbed on 12V, and everything else on 24V |
| mutley_ | but someone said to me isnt he going to finish the i3 first |
| mutley_ | lol |
| jdiez | atx? |
| kthx | atx is http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/22 and is also http://www.instructables.com/id/ATX--%3E-Lab-Bench-Power-Supply-Conversion/ and is also http://78.47.92.212/i3_documentation_pics/09-wiring.md.html and is also http://reprap.org/wiki/PCPowerSupply and is also http://mikkeljep.blogspot.dk/2013/11/atx-power-supply-for-repraps.html |
| jdiez | botsnack |
| kthx | this is why I love #reprap |
| robotustra | jdiez: I'd alredy assembled the printer |
| jdiez | robotustra: nice, is it printing well |
| jdiez | ? |
| Guest95543 | i'm using sanguinololu and the heatbed is PCB heatbed MK2 |
| Smidge204__ | jdiez: You can get 18-24V by cascading two ATX supplies if you're daring enough |
| robotustra | jdiez: today will do first try |
| jdiez | Smidge204__: can't I get 24V from an ATX psu? |
| jdiez | nope, only 12V |
| jdiez | my evil plans are foiled again |
| mutley_ | funny thingt all this does sound safr than those chinese 12v suppluies lol |
| robotustra | I finished calubration too late yesterday |
| Smidge204__ | jdiez: use two ATX supplies |
| jdiez | Smidge204__: how? |
| robotustra | +-+- |
| Smidge204__ | Isolate the ground of one |
| Smidge204__ | Preferably both |
| robotustra | yes |
| MattyMatt | I curious about what it'd take to up the volts on an ATX. afaik, it'd be just the zener, maybe a couple more turns on the transformer, and stuff |
| jdiez | oh, so connect them in series |
| jdiez | WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG |
| jdiez | lol |
| Smidge204__ | And connect the +12 of one to the ground of the other |
| robotustra | I would use DC-DC step UP |
| Smidge204__ | If you're careful, it'll be fine |
| Smidge204__ | :D |
| jdiez | yeah, I'd use a boost converter too |
| robotustra | 12-24V |
| jdiez | but I think I'm gonna look for a bigger laptop power suppy first |
| jdiez | lol |
| jdiez | before burning my house down |
| Smidge204__ | How "clean" does the power need to be? |
| MattyMatt | toshiba ones are 15V 5A |
| jdiez | Smidge204__: doesn't matter, it's gonna go straight to the reg |
| Smidge204__ | Like, maybe just steal a transformer from something and throw a bridge rectifier on it |
| jdiez | MattyMatt: 15V ain't enough |
| Smidge204__ | Couple smoothing caps, done |
| jdiez | hmm |
| Smidge204__ | I think I have a transformer out of an old UPS that outputs 18.somethingV |
| robotustra | jdiez: what do you need the power supply for? |
| jdiez | robotustra: I'm building a DC UPS for my printer |
| Smidge204__ | Use 35V electrolytic caps |
| robotustra | jdiez: ok |
| robotustra | why can't you take any PC UPS? |
| bill2or3 | jdiez: could you use a regular UPS, but tap directly off the 12v battery? |
| zaubara | does some1 know better glass bed brackets than those: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:260676 ? my plate started rattling due to the vibrations... |
| kthx | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:260676 => => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| zaubara | mini kossel that is |
| Smidge204__ | zaubara: Shim them! |
| Smidge204__ | Wedge bits of paper in there |
| jdiez | robotustra, bill2or3: where's the fun in that :P |
| jdiez | yes zaubara |
| jdiez | let me get it for you |
| Smidge204__ | bill2or3: The UPS would have a shitfit |
| Smidge204__ | Unless it was a high-end double conversion type |
| MattyMatt | I found a 350VA ups at the dump |
| zaubara | Smiedge204__: thanks, already did that on one side, was hoping for different ones ;-) |
| jdiez | anyway the eventual goal of this PSU project is to run my printer completely off renewable energies |
| zaubara | jdiez: awesome thanks :) |
| jdiez | solar etc |
| MattyMatt | ups with dead batteries get dumped all the time |
| jdiez | zaubara: http://u.jdiez.me/fsrtab-v2.stl |
| jdiez | designed by moi |
| MattyMatt | find your nearest e-waste mountain |
| Smidge204__ | jdiez: invent a power supply that captures the user's frustration and you'll have perpetual energy |
| jdiez | Smidge204__: ahahaha |
| jdiez | lol |
| buZz | Smidge204__: lol |
| jdiez | I'd be rich |
| zaubara | jdiez: awesome thanks! i guess they work without the fsrs too? |
| jdiez | sure thing zaubara |
| jdiez | zaubara: note, they're designed for 170mm glass dia |
| zaubara | perfect - thank you :) perfect, got a 170mm glass |
| jdiez | sweet |
| MattyMatt | however much I recycle in my lifetime, I'll never save as much energy as was spent sending the England team to Brazil |
| MattyMatt | although that could be cut in half by leaving them there |
| jdiez | afk |
| Smidge204__ | Gigantic peizo element behind a "Punch here" label perhaps |
| add1ct3dd | whats the easiest way to clean out a PLA hot end? |
| add1ct3dd | its not longer easy to push it through by hand |
| Smidge204__ | add1ct3dd: Unclog procedure |
| Smidge204__ | unclog? |
| kthx | unclog is http://youtu.be/pomMbceEI7I and is also http://reprap.org/wiki/Clog |
| Smidge204__ | There are no known solvents that will remove PLA without also seriously damaging the hotend itself |
| add1ct3dd | ty |
| add1ct3dd | just a quick q |
| add1ct3dd | surely i wont be able to pull the filament out the hot end at 60c |
| recon_lap | add1ct3dd: with PLA you can |
| add1ct3dd | nevermind, managed |
| shaun413 | hello |
| shaun413 | recon_lap, |
| shaun413 | my plants arent getting much bigger |
| recon_lap | shaun413: are they pot bound? |
| shaun413 | yes |
| shaun413 | they are in the trays |
| recon_lap | shaun413: well, if you want them to get bigger you need to put them in bigger pots |
| shaun413 | oh... |
| shaun413 | how big of a pot |
| recon_lap | shaun413: sort of up to you. what pots have you got? |
| shaun413 | uhh |
| shaun413 | a bunch of maybe 1 ft diamater ones |
| shaun413 | I was going to build raised beds |
| shaun413 | but.. |
| shaun413 | that never happened |
| recon_lap | shaun413: well, you can use a lot of different pots and go up in steps, you get maximun root ball in the pot of you do that, or you can just go to a big pot and save on buying all those pots. |
| shaun413 | i see |
| shaun413 | well |
| shaun413 | how big a pot is the smallest pot i could use? |
| shaun413 | i think i have a poop ton of 4 in pots |
| MattyMatt | one size bigger than they've got |
| shaun413 | they are in seed starting trays... |
| mastag25 | mmm |
| mastag25 | pot |
| MattyMatt | new project. cnc planting machine. |
| robotustra | MattyMatt: for wat? |
| robotustra | what? |
| MattyMatt | for big graphitti in the local park |
| recon_lap | shaun413: if you want to get an idea about pots, just go to a garden center and look at what they got. |
| robotustra | non profit? |
| shaun413 | well |
| shaun413 | pots are pricy |
| robotustra | MattyMatt: you mean painting? |
| MattyMatt | spring = oh it's a man playing with an RC car. autumn = 50m FUCK! |
| MattyMatt | seeds is probably easiest |
| shaun413 | recon_lap, can I put them in the 4in for now? |
| shaun413 | out of seed trays... |
| shaun413 | with regular potting soil? |
| robotustra | MattyMatt: I have better idea |
| recon_lap | shaun413: sure, 4inch is fine. and what else would you put in a pot other than potting soil !! |
| shaun413 | peat |
| shaun413 | Ok |
| robotustra | CNC controlled paintball gun + many colored balls, to put it to right place |
| shaun413 | looks like i have a poop ton of work to do then... |
| shaun413 | cya |
| recon_lap | shaun413: peat would work too. depending on the plants you might want to add perlite or that other stuff |
| MattyMatt | robosutra, nvidia proved that 256 guns is better :) |
| recon_lap | shaun413: and don't take the soil off the existing roots. |
| MattyMatt | or was that AMD? |
| robotustra | I don't know |
| mutley_ | ok so is it true the i4 is closed source~? |
| MattyMatt | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwDPb3T8bOQ it was mythbusters |
| mutley_ | someone just commented "oh no this is the end of reprap", to which i responded reprap is people driven not person driven |
| mutley_ | so, i cut myself shaving today, with scissors lol |
| reifsnyderb | seen codecreations? |
| kthx | codecreations was last seen in #reprap 2 hours 11 min ago saying '_seen_ _r_eifsnyderb_'. |
| reifsnyderb | botsmack! |
| kthx | OUCH! |
| Smidge204__ | heh |
| Smidge204__ | bottag |
| robotustra | I want to have as much fun as mythbusters had |
| robotustra | and even more |
| Chewy64 | What is funny, is those two guys, don;t like each other that much. |
| kthx | Chewy64: 5 hours 42 min ago <malcom2073> tell Chewy64 Your wheels broke the 10EE :) |
| Chewy64 | HA! |
| robotustra | Chewy64: it doesn't really matter |
| Chewy64 | robotustra, No, it doesn't. |
| robotustra | they have a lot of fun all their crew |
| Chewy64 | I watched a thing about just their relationship once. It was really interesteding listening to them talk about it. It's pretty much a proffessional working relationship. |
| Chewy64 | Once I found that our, I watched the show and notcied how little they are actually in the same space at the same time. |
| robotustra | If Jemmy were a bit younger probably they would like each other |
| robotustra | more |
| robotustra | but he is too much serious |
| Smidge204__ | Jemmy? |
| robotustra | Jimmy |
| robotustra | Hainemann |
| Smidge204__ | Jamie. |
| Smidge204__ | Jamie Hyneman. |
| Smidge204__ | aka Mr. Walrus. |
| robotustra | I don't know american names spelling sorry |
| robotustra | is he here? |
| Smidge204__ | I doubt it |
| Blob | Wiring a dual voltage MK2b heated bed, do I have to connect negative to both pins 2 and 3, or can I just connect to pin 2? |
| robotustra | ok, so I haven't warry about bad spelling |
| Smidge204__ | Blob: There should be a wiring key printed ont he board |
| robotustra | what about printed wheels like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYcX_D09ig |
| robotustra | what is the best material to print it? |
| Smidge204__ | Something flexible |
| robotustra | nylon? |
| kthx | nylon is nylon 6 generates HCN when heated above 400c, and is also http://richrap.blogspot.com/2013/04/3d-printing-with-nylon-618-filament-in.html and is see HCN |
| jeffdm_work | Flexy, on its side, no top or bottom layers. |
| Blob | Smidge204__: There is. It says 1+, 2-, 3-. I've never seen anyone connect - to pin 3. My question is, do I have to connect to both? |
| Smidge204__ | I think so |
| jeffdm_work | Connect both for 12V IIRC. Only one for 24V. The chart should say. |
| Smidge204__ | Basically the bed is two resistors in series. |
| Smidge204__ | (2)--/\/\/\/--(1)--/\/\/\/--(3) |
| jeffdm_work | http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_245782_1.jpg |
| jeffdm_work | + to 2, - to 3 |
| hyperair | so i'm having this weird issue where my PLA keeps clicking when printing infill, but fixes itself when printing the perimeter |
| hyperair | @_@ |
| Smidge204__ | Yeah |
| hyperair | oh, and if i print a tiny gear with lots of retractions, it works! |
| hyperair | but i can't print the goddamned cube |
| hyperair | wtf |
| zimirken | isnt that great |
| Blob | jeffdm_work: , that would be for 24V. I'm using 12 |
| jeffdm_work | Oh, sorry. |
| jeffdm_work | I misunderstood. |
| jeffdm_work | Wire 2 and 3 to - |
| Smidge204__ | For 24V you're using the two resistive elments in series. With 12V you're doing it in parallel. |
| Smidge204__ | So you need both 2 and 3 |
| Blob | OK. thanks. |
| Blob | My boatrd has solder pads on both sides. Does it matter which I use? |
| Smidge204__ | Depends on how you plan to moutn the board |
| jeffdm_work | Are the holes in them plated through? |
| Smidge204__ | Solder everything to the side that will not be in your way I guess |
| Blob | There is a thru hole in them, yes |
| jeffdm_work | Is that hole plated through? |
| jeffdm_work | Bare fiberglass or shiny all the way through? |
| Blob | How would I check? |
| Smidge204__ | Look at it |
| jeffdm_work | Or use a multimeter and check continuity of the same pad between both sides of the board. |
| Blob | Shiny, so I guess plated through |
| Smidge204__ | That would only tell you if they're connected at all |
| Smidge204__ | Blob: Yup. |
| jeffdm_work | Then solder whichever side works best for you. |
| zaubara | btw, im printing a different stl now (jdiez' fsrtabs, ty :), also reduced the infill quite a bit - and no more random stops mid print. i guess it could be the arduino being to slow for 1/32 stepping and so many moves... |
| Blob | but that is a small amount of surface to carry a relatively high voltage |
| bill2or3 | if you use the top, make sure it's not putting a lump that'll keep your glass from laying flat. |
| Blob | bill2or3: no problem there. The glass is out of the way already because of the bolt head. |
| Blob | I see that ORD Solutions finished their contest to name their printer. They went with Rova3d. |
| BubbleRep | seen lulzbotbam* |
| kthx | lulzbotbam was last seen in #reprap 1 month 1 day ago saying '_has_ _anyone_ _tried_ _using_ _fire_ _cement_ _to_ _glue_ _the_ _thermistor_ _into_ _the_ _heater_ _block_?'. |
| Tuim | Check it out, I have my printer almost up and running again |
| Tuim | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4_Om3NYu34 |
| Tuim | I am using parts from mutley_ :) |
| mutley_ | lol i thought you meant you were downloading a movie to watch, like star wars or something |
| mutley_ | not a movie of the printer lol |
| mutley_ | awesome |
| Tuim | I havent actually tightened all the parts down yet |
| mutley_ | ahh a tip |
| robotustra | is it bossible to print in gelatin? |
| Tuim | But I hope smooth sailing from here |
| mutley_ | see where the z axis isolators are, and how they can rotate a little bit |
| Tuim | Yeah, I havent put in the grub screws yet |
| mutley_ | fuck where is my head i thought i was in pm lol |
| mutley_ | lol ok well anyway where the z isolators are, pop a cable tie onto the rod either siide to it doesnt rotate as much |
| Tuim | Will do! |
| Tuim | Not sure if the grub screws are even needed |
| mutley_ | i have a modified part on the way that is not allowed to rotate as much, but this rotation if aloowed, can cause some banding, so pop the ties onto the rod, pull the tight, snip them off, then push them close onto the isolator and all will be good |
| mutley_ | no grubbies can probbaly be left out but there fir safekeeps just in case |
| tjb1 | seen lukan* |
| kthx | Lukan-A was last seen in #reprap 3 days 16 hours ago saying '_put_ _it_ _in_ _hastebin_ _brady2600_'. |
| kthx | Lukan was last seen in #reprap 4 days 15 hours ago saying '_This_ _is_ _an_ _unrealistic_ _standard_ : _http_://_i_._huffpost_._com_/_gen_/_489811_/_thumbs_/_r_-_IOANA_-_SPANGENBERG_-_large570_._jpg_'. |
| kthx | Lukan-M was last seen in #reprap 2 weeks 5 days ago saying '_night_ _all_'. |
| adam_ | hey, are reprapsource a reputable company? |
| BubbleRep | yes and if you have problems you can hit jglauche here, he is the owner |
| mutley_ | adam_: you can even use bubblereps happy slappy trout to hit hit jglauche if your not happy |
| robotustra | :) |
| mutley_ | kettle calls |
| robotustra | good tactic - kick owner's ass :) |
| mutley_ | but in the meantime |
| MattyMatt | robotustra, I'd guess yes to gelatin, or gelatin+sugar mix (for water soluble support) but if it sticks needs experimentation |
| mutley_ | i offer some actuator gears for sale, b mw m power throttle actuators, and i explicitly state in the ad if your not a mechanic and your asking for gears to DIY i take no liability whatsoever |
| mutley_ | so i have a muppet who follows not one instruction given, gets supplied with four sets of gears |
| mutley_ | he fucks iut up as he isnt a mechanic |
| mutley_ | whack, i get a chargeback out of the blue, paypal balance wiped out, funds access restriucted, |
| mutley_ | so i get a new order, and i cant deliver that order as i need to buy tooling to make the parts, its part of the cost, cusommter buys, i get tooling, make the parts and ship |
| mutley_ | total fuck up |
| BubbleRep | wasn't me |
| mutley_ | lol |
| robotustra | MattyMatt: to print paintballs for instance |
| BubbleRep | juuuust saying |
| Spec | mutley_: in other news, i bought some gears from some guy online and i fucked them up, but paypal gave me the money back anyways |
| mutley_ | lol |
| mutley_ | heheheee |
| Spec | paypal definitely is biased towards the buyer |
| Spec | i've never been convinced if that's a good thing or not :p |
| shaun4133 | hello |
| shaun4133 | should I buy surgery simulator? |
| shaun4133 | its 2.50 |
| mutley_ | shaun4133: go for it, you would print a dong and practiive circumstisions |
| mutley_ | would =- could |
| shaun4133 | well |
| shaun4133 | its a gme |
| shaun4133 | on steam |
| shaun4133 | tho |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | mutley_ .... |
| mutley_ | royyyyyyyyyy |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | hi |
| shaun4133 | hello |
| mutley_ | you come here often roy? |
| mutley_ | i seen you around you know |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | just for flex drives |
| shaun4133 | i have a flex drive |
| shaun4133 | if you want |
| mutley_ | RoyOnWheels|MTW: dont be alarmed, he has not one from me |
| robotustra | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcXNPI-IPPM |
| mutley_ | i had sie hard decisions to make today, and a few more to make tomorrow but you will like tomorrows deciisions, they are bagged packed labelled sealed |
| mutley_ | mmm that sounded german |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | post em |
| spret | Problems with PLA print!! Just switched back to PLA from ABS. Trying to print a solid rectangle. The extruded bead is very inconsistent. It will print a good, solid bead for about 3 back-and-forth lines, and then print a very broken/shriveling/crumby bead for 2 back-and-forth lines. It then repeats this pattern consistently! |
| spret | I am using head temp: 190, bed temp: 63 |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | ACTION is shopping to build a 3kg sumo robot |
| robotustra | 3kg only? |
| shaun4133 | yo |
| shaun4133 | anyone has steam? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | spret you purged all abs out |
| spret | RoyOnWheels|MTW: i believe so! |
| robotustra | I had it for 1 hour once |
| robotustra | but uninstalled it quickly |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | sounds like abs plug, run at abs temperature more |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | robotustra http://www.robothon.org/robothon/sumo.php |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | 1st time having big bots |
| robotustra | RoyOnWheels|MTW: ok, there is a limit |
| spret | I'll try! |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | robotustra yeah looking at body that would be about 80% lead |
| recon_lap1 | mutley_: you should read some of the stories from other e-bay sellers. |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | functional parts under 1kg |
| robotustra | it's better if it whould be led battery + some plutonium |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | yeah battery too |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | basically add lead as needed |
| spret | What is the best PLA temperature settings you guys have found? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | temperature varies by filament |
| mutley_ | recon_lap1: i have to say though, credit to paypal, they are quite human facing in may respects, ie they take into account and consider very well the difficulties such ituations can cause an do often privide a workable solution or activate manual over-rides ont heir system so i keep my fingers crossed |
| mutley_ | at least this has been my experience so far |
| recon_lap1 | spret: there is no best temp, it varies so much from printer to printer and filament to filament. you just have to print some test pieces and see what work best for you . |
| mutley_ | at this point in time i need to get some paypal funds transferred into someone elses paypal in the uk that has online banking, so they can withdraw the funds without any hold or delay, and then do a BACs into my account |
| mutley_ | but they need to know that they have a functional and instant withdrawal ability into their own account |
| recon_lap1 | mutley_: I was referring to dead beat customers who order things and dont want to pay for them |
| mutley_ | bloody nightmares |
| mutley_ | recon_lap1: yea it does happen, this guy was just incompetant though, to some extent i felt sorry for him but then he repeated the mistakes time and again and ignored every bit of advice |
| mutley_ | i even offered to go down and do the job in person, then he suuggested he come up here with the actuators, to which i happily agreed, then he canclled |
| mutley_ | i cant do more than that really |
| Spec | shaun4133: i hear good things about awesomenauts, which is available for $00.99 presently |
| shaun4133 | oh :/ |
| shaun4133 | I was going to get surgery simulator |
| Tuim | silly game |
| shaun4133 | why |
| Tuim | No point really |
| shaun4133 | oh |
| shaun4133 | what should I buy |
| Smidge204__ | What games DO have points? |
| Tuim | Games with stories |
| Tuim | But that is a personal opinion |
| shaun4133 | i like sandboc |
| shaun4133 | sandbox |
| Smidge204__ | And what's the point, then? |
| Tuim | Whats the point of watching a movie then :] |
| Smidge204__ | Good question |
| Smidge204__ | to be entertained, perhaps |
| Smidge204__ | So if a game is entertaining, perhaps that's the point? |
| recon_lap1 | Smidge204 what about that guy who is making 2m a year playing a game !!! |
| Tuim | Yeah |
| Tuim | shaun4133: I liked the Tomb Raider game that is on sale now |
| Smidge204__ | To that end, Surgeon Simulator is both challenging and amusing |
| Smidge204__ | Totally worth the $2.50 IMHO |
| Tuim | Same goes for the hitman game, and dark souls |
| Tuim | Nether is pretty crap imo |
| shaun4133 | meh |
| shaun4133 | dont like tomb raicer |
| shaun4133 | raider |
| shaun4133 | nah |
| Smidge204__ | I'm getting a lot of milage out of The Forest |
| Tuim | Same here |
| Tuim | Well worth the 14 euros |
| shaun4133 | Smidge204, i should buy surgery simulator |
| shaun4133 | ? |
| Smidge204__ | I'm about 12% done cutting down every tree in the game |
| shaun4133 | the forest? |
| Smidge204__ | shaun413: I think it's great entertainment value for the price |
| Smidge204__ | Surgeon Sim, that is |
| shaun4133 | hmmm |
| shaun4133 | this is a rough one |
| MattyMatt | I get enough fun watching pewdiepie play it |
| Smidge204__ | If you look at it in terms of hours of entertainment per dollar, SS2013 is a stellar value |
| Tuim | The forest will be even more awesome when they add in coop |
| shaun4133 | how many hours? |
| Smidge204__ | I've put in maybe an hour on SS2013 (only got it two days ago) and that's already a better deal than any movie theater could offer |
| Smidge204__ | But I've only just scratched the surface, too |
| Tuim | What is ss 2013? |
| Smidge204__ | Surgery Simulator 2013 |
| Tuim | Ah |
| MattyMatt | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4-imnzPlNM |
| Smidge204__ | I've got maybe 40 hours on The Forest |
| shaun4133 | k i buy it |
| shaun4133 | whats the forest? |
| Smidge204__ | And about that many on Viscera Cleanup Detail |
| Smidge204__ | Which, BTW, is fucking hilarious |
| Tuim | I got that with Shadow Warrior |
| shaun4133 | the forst looks neat thoo |
| shaun4133 | oh im afraid of zombies tho |
| Smidge204__ | no zombies |
| shaun4133 | i dont play scary games |
| Smidge204__ | Not for you, then |
| shaun4133 | one time i played amnesia |
| jeffdm_work | Viscera Cleanup Detail: where you try to clean up after murders? |
| shaun4133 | i passed out |
| shaun4133 | literally |
| jeffdm_work | did you forget? |
| Tuim | jeffdm_work: Yes |
| jeffdm_work | Tasty. |
| shaun4133 | no, but i have nightmares from it now |
| shaun4133 | so i dont play tose games anymore |
| shaun4133 | those |
| Smidge204__ | jeffdm_work: You know how classic FPS games have you running through hallways blowing up aliens? VCD has you cleaning up after that guy |
| shaun4133 | oh btw |
| shaun4133 | ftl is fun |
| Smidge204__ | Picking up bullet casings and wiping blood off the ceilings |
| shaun4133 | if anyone wants to be tortured |
| Smidge204__ | ANd now I gotta run. Tah~ |
| jeffdm_work | Is there a game called Paint Drying? |
| shaun4133 | yes |
| Tuim | I have been playing a ton of path of exile |
| mutley_ | dont blink or you ll miss it |
| shaun4133 | i like prison architect |
| shaun4133 | k |
| jeffdm_work | Watch Grass Grow |
| shaun4133 | playing surgery sim |
| shaun4133 | yayy |
| MattyMatt | that was renamed Town Planning for the UK market |
| shaun4133 | what was |
| MattyMatt | prison architect :) |
| shaun4133 | its not a town |
| MattyMatt | but the towns are big prisons |
| MattyMatt | you need a passport to leave the island |
| MattyMatt | the guards give us just enough to stop us rioting often |
| Bo_DK | quick Q.... how do i best calculate my esteps for Z axis? i have 400mm of travel and over just 80mm i notice a 0.5mm error..... a guide would be great? |
| Bo_DK | doooh |
| Bo_DK | http://reprap.org/wiki/Triffid_Hunter's_Calibration_Guide |
| bill2or3 | Bo_DK: you calculate it from your threaded-rod-pitch and stepper drivers and stepper motors... |
| bill2or3 | you probably have 200 step motors, and 16x microstepping drivers.... |
| bill2or3 | which means 3200 steps per turn of the threaded rod. |
| bill2or3 | so you need to know how far one turn moves the Z. |
| bill2or3 | and divide. |
| Bo_DK | yeah found that guide but have to read and understand.... what leed me to this was i saw the nozzle just a tad to high.... and layers did not stick |
| Bo_DK | // NEMA 17 with standard pitch M8 threaded rod: |
| Bo_DK | (200 * 16) / 1.25 = 2560 |
| Bo_DK | me look what i entered |
| Bo_DK | 258 |
| Bo_DK | 2580 |
| Bo_DK | ramps 1.4 with doooh... need to lookup what steppers |
| Bo_DK | A4988 |
| bill2or3 | Bo_DK: I usually just put the equation there, to remind myself how that number is derived. |
| Bo_DK | yep... i removed that from marlin.... stupid now i see |
| recon_lap1 | calculator? |
| kthx | calculator is http://calculator.josefprusa.cz/ Sweet and hip version 3 is now online!! an http://calculator.josefprusa.cz/old/ and is also http://nathan7.eu/stuff/RepRapCalculator/RepRapCalculator.html#ExtrusionSF40 |
| bill2or3 | 2580 vs 2560 is barely anything, I bet your problem is elsewhere (but fix that, too) |
| bill2or3 | have you physically measured your filament diameter? |
| Bo_DK | yep... |
| bill2or3 | what's it's diameter? |
| Bo_DK | 3.1 |
| Bo_DK | but .... |
| bill2or3 | whhaaht? |
| bill2or3 | describe to me how you measured it. |
| Bo_DK | i could see much free air under the nozzle |
| Bo_DK | with calipers.... |
| Bo_DK | 3.1mm |
| bill2or3 | that's pretty fat. |
| bill2or3 | most is in the 2.8-2.9 range. |
| Bo_DK | i know... messured it several places |
| Bo_DK | but i just wondered why i see air (pretty much in fact) between nozzle and object |
| bill2or3 | the best is several places, twice at 90deg angles in each spot, and average the results. |
| bill2or3 | Bo_DK: move your nozzle down so it's touching the bed, then click "Z+10" five times, and measure how high it moved. |
| bill2or3 | you dont' have to measure at the nozzle itself, it can be anywhere convenient on the carriage. |
| Bo_DK | just did that.... it does not move what i tell it to |
| bill2or3 | how far did you tell it,and how far did it move? |
| Bo_DK | 0.5mm to much over 80mm |
| Bo_DK | told it to move 80mm |
| Bo_DK | and it moved 80.5 |
| Bo_DK | and it was adding up for each 10mm i told it to move |
| Bo_DK | might try to go full lenght |
| Bo_DK | ie home and tell it to move the full 400mm |
| bill2or3 | so like the first +10 moved to 10mm, and the second +10 moved to 30mm? |
| Bo_DK | ehh? no i started with telling it to move 10mm and it moved almost spot on... then told it to move another 10mm... at it moved a tad more than it should |
| Bo_DK | when i clicked for the 8th time it was 0.5mm off |
| bill2or3 | oh. |
| Bo_DK | ie it got worse for each time i told it to move 10mm |
| bill2or3 | that's probably the 2560 vs 2580 z-steps difference. Did you reflash with the correct z-steps yet? |
| Bo_DK | now lets try 20cm/200mm in one go and see if it does move |
| Bo_DK | nope i just discovered the difference... |
| Bo_DK | so homed it.... i have a mendel90 with top z endstop... told it to move 100mm... it moved 101mm |
| Bo_DK | time to correct and reflash |
| bill2or3 | yep. |
| mastag25 | how do you measure the distance it went |
| bill2or3 | with a ruler. |
| mastag25 | just seems like it would be hard |
| bill2or3 | yeah, it is. that's why you use a longer distance, not just 10mm |
| bill2or3 | calipers are better than a ruler, fwiw. |
| Bo_DK | hehe... will use that when ruler says spot on |
| mastag25 | did you just mark it somewhere at 100mm |
| bill2or3 | if you calculate it right, it'll be right. |
| recon_lap1 | mastag25: the 100mm measurement just gets you in the ball park, fine tuning follows |
| mastag25 | ok |
| mastag25 | i guess its something ill learn when i have to do it |
| Bo_DK | mastag25: pretty much yes... homed, mark on rod... told it to move 100mm |
| Bo_DK | reflash and same again |
| Bo_DK | when ruler says spot on i use calipers |
| Bo_DK | and do the same again |
| bill2or3 | Bo_DK: does a single move to Z+80mm put it in the same place as 8 10mm moves? |
| Bo_DK | once it moves correct i will do the full 400mm |
| nottakumasato | Do you guys have any method for preventing plastic leakage between nozzle and heat barrel in heaterblock? |
| mastag25 | that never happened to me |
| mastag25 | it shouldnt be liquified that much to push through i wouldnt think |
| bill2or3 | it shouldn't leak there. |
| bill2or3 | the seal should be ... better. |
| nottakumasato | The faces of the nozzle and heat barrel do not perfectly match, thus plastic leakes |
| bill2or3 | what extruder? |
| Bo_DK | ....... i had that once... |
| Bo_DK | with a jhead |
| nottakumasato | gregs wade and e3d |
| mastag25 | did you tighten it good? |
| nottakumasato | but made it myself |
| nottakumasato | yep |
| nottakumasato | as hard as I could |
| Bo_DK | used PTFE tabe before assemble and never got a leak again |
| nottakumasato | do you think ptfe tape might work? |
| nottakumasato | oh ok |
| Bo_DK | but... |
| Bo_DK | you have to apply it in right direction... |
| nottakumasato | My next question was, any method for removing burnt plastic from threads? |
| bill2or3 | nottakumasato: if it makes you feel any better, my "made it myself" hotend leaked the same way. |
| Bo_DK | apply is so that when assemble it will not take off the tape but tighten it |
| bill2or3 | heat & wire brush. |
| nottakumasato | bill2or3: it did :) |
| bill2or3 | yeah, the interface between the barrel and the inside of the nozzle wasn't flat enough to made solidly and make a good seal. |
| nottakumasato | so if the nozzle tightens clockwise, should I apply ptfe tape counter clockwise? |
| Bo_DK | what i do is take the 2 parts and assemble and note what direction i turn the parts.... then i apply the tape in same direction |
| mastag25 | ptfe and teflon tape are the same thing arent they |
| nottakumasato | mastag25: yep |
| bill2or3 | yes, they are. |
| curious | except one is trademarked |
| Bo_DK | so holding firm the nozze and rotate the barrel clockwise to put on... apply tape clockwise too |
| mastag25 | yup |
| mastag25 | like plumbing |
| bill2or3 | note: there's tape for water lines(thin, blue spool) and tape for gas lines(thick, yellow spool). maybe the yellow would be better? |
| mastag25 | what about the white |
| mastag25 | heh |
| nottakumasato | Bo_DK: OK got it, thanks |
| Bo_DK | i use the one for waterline.... tinh as hell |
| Bo_DK | thin |
| Bo_DK | the plumbers call it virgin tape.... go figure why |
| Bo_DK | i can explain if need be |
| Bo_DK | :-D |
| nottakumasato | Bo_DK: please do |
| Bo_DK | thin as the "membrane" on a virgin :-D |
| mastag25 | heh |
| nottakumasato | thought it would be much more awkward |
| nottakumasato | nice explanation |
| Bo_DK | i'm always carefull with dirty words etc |
| MattyMatt | and wrapped over the end of a 2" water pipe, makes an acceptable substitute while on the job |
| Bo_DK | never know how people take it |
| bill2or3 | stay classy MattyMatt |
| nottakumasato | Bo_DK: nice technique but wont produce funny stories |
| Bo_DK | yeah but you had to ask all girls passing if they are virgins.... faster to have the tape on hand |
| MattyMatt | I'm in a class of my own, until those other boys set fire to that dog |
| mutley_ | sheeeit nearly 3.5k views on the flex post, wow |
| mutley_ | whos setting fire to a dog? set fire to them |
| MattyMatt | I did, and then I was sent to a school with no classes at all |
| MattyMatt | meh. it's futile to attempt The Aristocrats joke in a public channel |
| MattyMatt | if it gets too good, I WILL end up in trouble |
| tew_ | hi |
| MattyMatt | hi tew_ |
| MattyMatt | ACTION welcomebot |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | mutley_ reprap forum post |
| mutley_ | RoyOnWheels|MTW: which one? |
| Cabzxs | Hello |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | mutley_ what has 3.5k |
| mutley_ | ah yes, nearly 3.5 views, the flex post |
| mutley_ | so 3 plus someone who nearly looked at it ;p |
| Cabzxs | I have been experiencing some problems with the thermistors, the reading seems not to change, any ideas as to why? |
| bill2or3 | I thought about looking, maybe I am the 1/2 |
| bill2or3 | Cabzxs: you're not reading the pin you think you are? |
| Computer_Barf | RoyOnWheels: my leadscrews on my z axis have a tendency to fall out of the bearings on my vertices on my mendelmax 1.5 , I have z wobble that i presume to be because of this. Do you have any vertices you can recommend that perhaps hold the bearings lower, or perhaps some sort of anti z wobble mechanism? |
| Cabzxs | You mean that I have set the software wrong |
| bill2or3 | Cabzxs: exactly. see if the reading changes when you unplug the themistor... |
| bill2or3 | z-isolators |
| bill2or3 | z-isolators ? |
| Cabzxs | Gonna try it when I get home tonight. Another ideas? |
| bill2or3 | Cabzxs: what is the reading? (the one that doesn't change) |
| Computer_Barf | bill2or3: please keep in mind the z isolators need to be mendelmax 1.5 compatable |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | Computer_Barf wheres the bearing |
| Computer_Barf | on the top |
| bill2or3 | I have a MM1.0... are the 1.5 x-ends much different? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | bottom z motor, i would loose the bearings |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | bill2or3 the x ends were never speced |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | basically user decides |
| Computer_Barf | lose or loosen? don't understand |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | get rid of |
| bill2or3 | z-isolator? |
| kthx | z-isolator is http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:20147 and is also a great name for a B-rate 80's sci-fi thriller movie featuring killer robots. |
| bill2or3 | yes, that's the one. |
| Cabzxs | The readings that don't change are 50 an80d |
| ptl | anyone care to help? My RUMBA board it not turning on the second FAN (FAN1) [command: M42 P8 S255] - picture of the board: http://i.imgur.com/VjXbr5q.jpg |
| Computer_Barf | Ok so I remove the bearings, and then print the z-isolator? |
| shaun4133 | TACOSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssss |
| Computer_Barf | the picture here, idk if this fits what I have |
| brentru | mutley_: ? |
| Computer_Barf | the leadscrew on mine goes all the way down to the motor, plus the bottom of my x axis ends have the brass bushing |
| brentru | mutley_: did you just refund me? |
| brentru | kthx tell mutley* did you just refund me? -brent |
| kthx | brentru: I'll pass that on when mutley* is around. |
| brentru | kthx tell mutley did you just refund me? -brent |
| kthx | brentru: I'll pass that on when mutley is around. |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | Computer_Barf or just try printing without bearings |
| brentru | kthx tell mutley_ did you just refund me? -brent |
| kthx | brentru: I'll pass that on when mutley_ is around. |
| mutley_ | brentru: some yes i did, more to follow but wanted you to see i hadnt forgotten, and that i had it i thought i had better do it |
| kthx | mutley_: 16 sec ago <brentru> tell mutley* did you just refund me? -brent |
| kthx | mutley_: 1 sec ago <brentru> tell mutley_ did you just refund me? -brent |
| mutley_ | do |
| mutley_ | h |
| brentru | mutley_: thank you for your honesty |
| mutley_ | yes i did just refund some |
| mutley_ | but not all |
| brentru | That's fine. Thank you, regardless. |
| mutley_ | i had what i had, you is well overdue |
| mutley_ | so yes i did...and i think its me to be thanking you for the patience |
| brentru | ACTION forgot about it, completely |
| Bo_DK | bill2or3: btw... got the z travel sorted.... with calipers... now i'm just sorting out where Z 0 is... with top mounted end stop its done by specing max travel... and fine tuning that number |
| bill2or3 | Bo_Dk: top -endstop? you're a witch! |
| bill2or3 | (unless it's a delta...) |
| Bo_DK | its not... its a mendel90 |
| Bo_DK | its actually not that stupid... Z just needs to be set once and for all... with level bed etc... and steps pr mm set too |
| MattyMatt | a belt drive Z might be OK, as it seems to work fine on deltas |
| MattyMatt | worst case scenario is you'll need a counterweight |
| bill2or3 | that's a pretty bad worst-case, doubling your inertia.. |
| MattyMatt | who cares? Z hardly moves while printing |
| MattyMatt | unlike a delta, where they are all defying gravity all the time |
| IsaaX | hello, does anyone know of online stores that carry hardware for mini kossels and also accept bitcoin? |
| IsaaX | in the US |
| mutley_ | ACTION doesnt forget |
| Bo_DK | i think the accept bitcoin is the hardest part.... |
| Bo_DK | not a very stable currency and that is what most stores are after |
| mastag25 | IsaaX didnt you just order a mm2 |
| mastag25 | lol |
| IsaaX | mastag25 nah man i have an FM |
| IsaaX | which will be printing my kossel ;) |
| daveee123 | i was wondering if the duet electronics can work with repetier firmware |
| MattyMatt | will paypal take bitcoin? |
| Bo_DK | with many bitcoins exchanges out of play it becomes less attractive to deal in bitcoins |
| IsaaX | all my printer shit is funded with btc |
| mutley_ | ppayletsfuckyouupandcondeyouasguiltybeforeinnocentpal |
| mastag25 | lol |
| Bo_DK | thou i relly like the idea behind bitcoins.... |
| mastag25 | my friend owned paypal makes me a poorpal .com |
| MattyMatt | I let paypal do all my forex |
| Bo_DK | no one in control as such..... |
| daveee123 | also, does anyone know approximately how much weight a nema 17 with 55 N.cm of holding torque can move? even assuming acceleration and top speeds are low enough. i am just wondering the limits of how many extruders can be pulled. |
| Bo_DK | but there should be build in better self control in the system.... |
| Bo_DK | and the model behind it should be more open that it is |
| IsaaX | k thanks |
| mutley_ | im innocent therefore i am guilty until i can prive i am innocent and i have nothing to fear since i can prive i am innocent |
| mastag25 | .paypal.com |
| mutley_ | the issue is prooving your innocence to potential incompetance or ignorance |
| mutley_ | daveee123: it could pull a 40ton truck if geared right and moved slowly enugh |
| daveee123 | mutley_: well, without any gearing. and being driven by an allegro 4988 |
| mutley_ | hehehee |
| mutley_ | ok that ight only be a 7.5tonne truck with super pumped up tyres and a downhill gradient |
| daveee123 | mutley_: why stop at 40 tons, lets move the planet, the universe, bend space, time |
| MattyMatt | I'd prefer btc if the work involved wasn't worthless. if it was foldedproteincoins or wholeconstellationscheckedforETcoins I'd see the point |
| daveee123 | mutley_: haha, ok, well how about three non-bowden extruders? |
| daveee123 | mutley_: would that move at a reasonable print speed? |
| MattyMatt | galactic dollars. every time you discover a new planet, you get a token of ownership you can spend |
| MattyMatt | side effect, Herschel II would fund itself |
| MattyMatt | and telescope companies in general would thrive |
| mutley_ | not sure about three non bowden extruders but it would certainly move three flex extruders |
| mutley_ | bmp chiga wowow |
| mutley_ | if i could ship the to ya |
| mutley_ | lol |
| mutley_ | ACTION runs at wet trout face first |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | what's with trout! |
| BubbleRep | he is traumatized by my slaps |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | blddk has a size 45 trout he attacks with |
| mutley_ | scarred for life |
| tomstokes | daveee123: A motor with 55 N. cm. of holding torque can hold 55 N of force on the end of a 1 cm lever arm attached to the shaft. On Earth, 1N corresponds to a weight of about 102 grams. |
| tomstokes | But that's just the holding torque. You can't actually move anything with that torque. |
| daveee123 | tomstokes: hmmm...i am trying to drive three standard wade's extruders. would that be possible with just one motor? should i use a small pulley or a lead screw?(with really steep threads) |
| bill2or3 | that implies that you'd have no per-extruder adjustments.. I hope your filament is really-really consistent. |
| tomstokes | You're trying to use one motor for three separate extruders? |
| bill2or3 | and your hobbed bolts, too. |
| tomstokes | At the same time? |
| jdiez | guys |
| shaun4133 | yes |
| jdiez | if you were stranded on an island |
| shaun4133 | yes? |
| jdiez | with a bunch of household electornics |
| jdiez | and your life depended on finding two 470 ohm resistors |
| jdiez | where would you look |
| Spec | hahaha |
| jdiez | preferrably through-hole |
| shaun4133 | ah |
| shaun4133 | I would look in a radio |
| shaun4133 | yo |
| tomstokes | I would find a pencil |
| Spec | jdiez: i'd look in the drawer with the spare resistors :p |
| tomstokes | And wittle it down to the graphite |
| jdiez | Spec: no luck :P |
| shaun4133 | variable resistors |
| shaun4133 | use those |
| tomstokes | And then attach wires at two points on the graphite that corresponded to 470 Ohms. |
| jdiez | hmmmmmmmmmmm tomstokes |
| tomstokes | Disclaimer: Don't actually do that. |
| jdiez | you get 10 internet points for creative answer |
| Spec | tomstokes: why not? |
| jdiez | it'd probably have to be a long lead of graphite |
| Spec | err, doesn't diameter matter? |
| jdiez | prolly |
| Spec | larger diameter = less resistance, right? |
| BubbleRep | get 4 1kOhm and put each two in parallel, that gives you 500ohm should be close enough |
| shaun4133 | http://www.taydaelectronics.com/10-x-resistor-470-ohm-1-2w-5-carbon-film-pkg-of-10.html?gclid=CjgKEAjwoJ-dBRDbjfKN7IzN0FsSJAAP0G_DVYzpq_f1Pz5OPSTcfz9xmr3eTQ5swSc5PDfounv_lfD_BwE |
| bill2or3 | larger == more wattage |
| shaun4133 | OMG |
| shaun4133 | restors |
| shaun4133 | resistors |
| jdiez | BubbleRep: unfortunately close enough is not good enough in this circuit |
| jdiez | I want the 470ohms to make 235 ohms |
| jdiez | I have a 220ohm resistor which is too low |
| jdiez | this rsistor will be part of the voltage feedback network of a voltage regulator |
| Spec | shaun4133: have you started your rent-an-arduino service yet? |
| BubbleRep | so you would need those with <5% tollerance |
| jdiez | 230 works too |
| jdiez | but 220 produces too much voltage for comfort |
| BubbleRep | no small resistors available? |
| Chewy64 | Spec: Shaun is a wantrepreneur. Don't hold your breath. |
| shaun4133 | Spec, what? |
| BubbleRep | to put them in series |
| shaun4133 | that was never a such thing |
| jdiez | I have 10k resistors |
| jdiez | but that's about it |
| shaun4133 | use those |
| jdiez | no |
| shaun4133 | make 500k resistors with them |
| shaun4133 | use that |
| shaun4133 | nvmd |
| A2__ | daveee123: size the step motor with a 100% torque safety factor http://www.automationdirect.com/static/specs/surestepmotors.pdf |
| jdiez | I also have a 620ohm |
| Spec | shaun4133: i thought you were gonna ship out arduino units on a subscription based service every month, and then the person was gonna return them you ship a new one. |
| shaun4133 | no |
| Spec | you make money by the fact that it sounds like a neat idea, but people are lazy and never return them and you charge them for it. :p |
| BubbleRep | how many 10k ohm do you have? :D |
| shaun4133 | projects |
| shaun4133 | arduino projects |
| jdiez | a bunch BubbleRep |
| daveee123 | tomstokes: it is one motor to move a stack of three extruders. so there will be three motors to move the the three extruders in the x direction |
| BubbleRep | 26 10ks + the 620 in parallal makes 237 ohm |
| jdiez | lololol |
| jdiez | software idea: you tell an app the resistors that you have and the value you want and gives you the best answer |
| jdiez | that shit is probably np complete+ |
| jdiez | s/+// |
| MattyMatt | best answer, multiturn pot |
| robotustra_ | Is special cleaning of hot end needed after finishing print with ABS? |
| MattyMatt | with a vernier |
| robotustra_ | MattyMatt: is it to me? |
| mastag25 | what's the purpose of the stepper motor drivers, for people using straight arduino boards? |
| Computer_Barf | mastag25: arduino only outputs so much voltage and amperage |
| mastag25 | ok |
| Computer_Barf | not enough to power the motors |
| MattyMatt | no to jdiez, but I noticed shaun beat me to that suggestion :) |
| Computer_Barf | not to mention, stepper motors work in a particular way, but i dont particularly understand that stuff. |
| robotustra_ | 50/124 |
| Computer_Barf | but short answer, the arduino pin would burn itself out trying to power a stepper. |
| jdiez | i don't think I have a pot that can go as low as 220 |
| mutley_ | ben n jerry in da houoise |
| MattyMatt | yellow purple brown |
| mutley_ | banana rasberry chocolate yumyumpf |
| Computer_Barf | That is how it typically is with arduinos. You use it to trigger other things that control larger amounts of voltage/amperage. Usually involving either solid state relays, or transistors, or similar such things. It would be cool if someone mentioned how ramps goes about it. |
| Computer_Barf | i can understand banana chocolate |
| MattyMatt | pistachio, grape, chocolate |
| Computer_Barf | i can understand raspberry chocolate |
| mutley_ | pistachio is green tho |
| Computer_Barf | but i don't know if i would put so many fruits in my chocolate |
| Computer_Barf | chocolate demand has spiked lately |
| mutley_ | chocolate with any dark fruit, phwoar |
| MattyMatt | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIR8ykXHNGs yay, yt has ALL my childhood memories :) |
| MattyMatt | I wonder if they have any vid of my Nanna :( |
| Computer_Barf | prices on the beans themselves have risen around 30 percent, and the cocoa butter around 70 percent. Not insignificant fate for our chocolate bars. |
| mutley_ | ernie |
| mutley_ | awww nanna |
| Computer_Barf | I suppose its good for third world nations that produce cocoa trees though. It seems mostly because of increases in international demand |
| MattyMatt | both of em |
| MattyMatt | all of em, if you count the stepnannas |
| robotustra_ | so, I didn't do do I need to clean hotend? |
| robotustra_ | after finishing printing? |
| Computer_Barf | I don't know about you guys but I know I don't want a 70 percent more expensive chocolate bar. |
| robotustra_ | so, I didn't got do I need to clean hotend? |
| mutley_ | why have i not cloosed ernies ice cream cone |
| Computer_Barf | especially when you consider the costs of organic clean cocoa already. |
| MattyMatt | I didn't know what pistachio was until years after ernie |
| mutley_ | lol |
| mutley_ | i recall marine ices, sunday afternoon Chocolate and pistachio tub |
| MattyMatt | britain had exactly 4 flavours of icecream back then vanilla, strawberry, chocolate and raspeberry ripple |
| mutley_ | hehe |
| mutley_ | and two flavours of curry |
| MattyMatt | and pork&beef |
| mutley_ | dog and cat |
| daveee123 | A2__: thanks for that. i am not sure what values to use to calculate the torque or what values to use on the pdf to compare to so that i can include the torque safety factor. if I have 3lbs of mass(3 extruders) to move(assuming no friction?), and the pulley is about 16mm in diameter. Do i need any other information to calculate the maximum acceleration and top speed of this axis? |
| recon_lap1 | robotustra_: no, just let the hotend cool down, no need to clean it |
| daveee123 | A2__: assuming ideal conditions |
| mutley_ | my local curry houose got closed down for selling such delights |
| mutley_ | it was open again a week later "under new mangament" |
| mutley_ | dee dar tandoori house |
| MattyMatt | oh yeah, neopolitan, which was the other 3 in the same tub. exotic |
| mutley_ | er cat curry please four popodoms and mango chutney prease |
| MattyMatt | and a peshwari naan |
| mutley_ | come to think of itm, i wonder if it was halal cat |
| mutley_ | oh yea and the peshwari naan, or marzipan bread |
| MattyMatt | naan was too exotic for the 1970s. I think we were still on the poppadoms back then |
| MattyMatt | wartime rations |
| MattyMatt | sausages 90% sawdust, and we were proud of it |
| mutley_ | fibre |
| MattyMatt | it's the sizzle they were selling. CMOT Dibbler's specials |
| mutley_ | it was a funny ol place backk then |
| A2__ | daveee123: If you have 31 lbf then you need a stepper that can move 62 lbf. acceleration and speed of a stepper are pretty much set by the V, and A, and the driver you use. AFAIK, I'm still learning about this my self. |
| mutley_ | beat bobbies getting smashed in during riots, prejudice and racism rife, baked beans ever so popular, ford cortinas and northern soul |
| mutley_ | oh mods and rockers at birhgton kicking off annually too |
| daveee123 | A2__: thanks! |
| MattyMatt | that had stopped by the 70s hadn't it? it was all glam rock and picket lines by then |
| MattyMatt | and raleigh choppers, for the posh kids |
| MattyMatt | I had a go on one once, busted my nuts on the gearstick |
| mutley_ | i bunny hopped 7 bricks on a ...wait for it... a grifter |
| mutley_ | i still see the odd chopper and think, mmmm thats a serious health hazard, |
| mutley_ | wheelies just a tiny bit too easy |
| mutley_ | wowo mamory lane |
| Computer_Barf | stop guys im gonna get flackbacks from nam |
| mutley_ | pmsl |
| mutley_ | Mash Rulez |
| mutley_ | and hill street blues |
| MattyMatt | that was korea |
| mutley_ | Belcko |
| MattyMatt | but aired during nam, I guess |
| mutley_ | Korea? huh |
| Computer_Barf | Its funny how we always refer to these things |
| Computer_Barf | the vietnam war |
| Computer_Barf | the korean war |
| Computer_Barf | the iraq conflict |
| tew_ | is there some peopl with a smartrap here ? |
| Computer_Barf | we don't say, The American invasion of Vietnam. |
| Chewy64 | On no, of course not. |
| Chewy64 | Becasue it wasn't an invasion, in the technical sense at least.... |
| Chewy64 | More accurately "The failed American Invasion of X" |
| Computer_Barf | Lol im sorry when you fake being attacked, and then you use that as a justification to send more and more people there on a false pretext.. I kinda see that as invasive. |
| robotustra_ | How much time I should give to cool down before remove it from table? |
| robotustra_ | remove print* |
| mastag25 | shit |
| mastag25 | i remove my abs prints immediately after printing |
| mastag25 | PLA i would wait a few minutes though |
| Computer_Barf | i take my plate off and put it in the freezer |
| Computer_Barf | in the freezer, if your adhesion is to hair spray , or glue stick or pva glue, and its being stubborn , the freezer is great. |
| Computer_Barf | the expansion / contraction causes the surface to shift |
| airking | Does RAMPS need an 11 amp AND a 5 amp connection? |
| airking | help? |
| kthx | help is http://bot.kthx.nl/bot/factoid and is also searchable via google by adding "site:kthx.nl" to your search term(s) |
| airking | I'm wiring my ramps |
| Computer_Barf | yes I believe so |
| airking | I don't have an ATX power supply |
| airking | I have one that someone recommended |
| airking | it's 12@20amps |
| Computer_Barf | i mean, i dont recall back when i set it up , but both of those parts of the green thing have wires leading to them. |
| airking | Is there anyone here who can clarify? |
| Computer_Barf | Someone will eventually chime in |
| robotustra_ | 12*20 = 240 W |
| robotustra_ | fock, filament has broke, skipped one layer |
| Computer_Barf | it would be cool if computer vision could somehow watch the print, and detect exactly when something fails, and know how to resume it. |
| tjb11 | hp__, what is sla channel? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | stereo lithography |
| A2__ | just feed the CV a pdf of each slice to compare against your layer. |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | #dlp3dprinting |
| airking | tjb11: The power supply I have has a consistent 20amps across all lines, do I just plug that into both the 5amp and 11amp sections? |
| airking | it's 12 volts |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | pdf! |
| tjb11 | thanks RoyOnWheels|MTW |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | yeah |
| airking | Can I just put 20amps to both my 5amp and 11 amp terminals on my RAMPS? |
| MattyMatt | airking, yes |
| recon_lap1 | airking: sure can, the 5 and 11 is just how much they draw |
| mastag25 | amps are just current |
| airking | both are 12 volts? |
| mastag25 | amount of current can be drawn |
| mastag25 | as long as they are the same voltage it's no big deal |
| MattyMatt | current tends to be drawn rather than put |
| MattyMatt | ^what they said |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | 11a just an isolated bed circuit airking |
| airking | Both of them are 12 volts, right? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | yez |
| MattyMatt | if you short them together, then they will be the same voltage, whatever they want to be :) |
| recon_lap1 | airking: what you want to check is that the wires you use can handle the current that will be drawn |
| airking | yep |
| airking | I'm using wires rated for 120 |
| recon_lap1 | copper rods? |
| MattyMatt | 120amps? how thick are they? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | what awg? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | -5awg |
| iive | airking: 20 amps must the the maximum load. |
| recon_lap1 | airking: I think you might be mistaken about the 120amps |
| MattyMatt | actually 16 is the most that can be drawn before the fuses go |
| iive | power supply usually hold constant voltage, so the current changes depending on the consumption of power. |
| airking | That explains why it was reading at 0 amps |
| airking | when I had my voltmeter... |
| mastag25 | heh |
| daveee123 | anyone have any experience with an H-belt/corexy configuration? how accurate is it compared to a standard cartesian? |
| mastag25 | you have to run the object in line |
| robotustra_ | voltmeter reads voltage |
| recon_lap1 | airking: volts are not amps |
| mastag25 | and most multimeters cant measure high amps |
| robotustra_ | not amperage |
| mastag25 | its like 10a fused or something |
| BubbaP_ | hello, has anyone ever seen endstops trigger /dev/ttyACM0 to disappear all of a sudden? |
| BubbaP_ | It comes back right away as /dev/ttyACM1 |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | bubbaP it wired wrong resetting board? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | endstop wiring |
| recon_lap1 | BubbaP_ they can if they connected to the wrong pins |
| iive | 20amps*12volts=240Watts |
| daveee123 | BubbaP_: that happens when i pull out the usb and plug it back in. but never from an endstop |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | BubbaP_ ground to sig |
| BubbaP_ | The endstops are connected to X- Y- and Z- |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | mechanical endstop |
| BubbaP_ | As soon as an endstop is triggered, pronterface says it lost the serial connection |
| BubbaP_ | its very weird |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | what pins of the 3 enstop pins? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | wire wrong set it'll crash |
| recon_lap1 | BubbaP_ it's not weird if you got the endstop connected to the wrong pins |
| BubbaP_ | hmm I don't know - it's a ramps board connected to an arduino mega |
| recon_lap1 | ramps? |
| kthx | ramps is the Reprap Arduino Pololu Electronics Platform: http://reprap.org/wiki/Arduino_Mega_Pololu_Shield http://reprap.org/wiki/RAMPS1.4 http://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/6/6d/Rampswire14.svg |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | yeah we know |
| BubbaP_ | yep RAMS1.4 |
| recon_lap1 | BubbaP_: http://reprap.org/wiki/RAMPS1.4 |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | how is endstop attached |
| recon_lap1 | BubbaP_ this one http://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/6/6d/Rampswire14.svg , sry |
| tjb1 | "what is endstop" |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | you have ground signal and 5v |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | 5v to signal crashes everything |
| BubbaP_ | its wired to normally open pins and it is connected to the x min, y min and zmin on the ramps board |
| tjb1 | take picture of your ramps board |
| recon_lap1 | BubbaP_ have you looked at http://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/6/6d/Rampswire14.svg ? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | BubbaP_ on what ramps pins |
| BubbaP_ | yep, I haven't even hooked up any 12V stuff, I'm just checking sensors |
| BubbaP_ | let me see if I can take a pic of the board wiring |
| ccecil | If the endstop is connected backwards it shorts the 5v to gnd |
| ccecil | which shuts off the MCU |
| ccecil | depending on how the endstop is wired it could be when the endstop is triggered...or just plugged in...also a backwards stepper driver will shut things off too |
| ccecil | or a defective stepper driver can also do it |
| Ruprect | any electronics gurus about? |
| BubbaP_ | shit I just figured it out - there's 3 pins for the end stops on the ramps board and I used the bottom 2 pins instead of the top 2 pins |
| BubbaP_ | as soon as I connected them to the top 2 it worked ok |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | yeah figured that was it |
| airking | Just setup my printer, and my bed is not heating |
| airking | it should be heating to 100C |
| airking | and it's still at room temp |
| ccecil | BubbaP_: yep...you were shorting the 5v line to gnd |
| airking | Any help? |
| recon_lap1 | m105? |
| kthx | m105 is M105: Get Extruder Temperature, Request the temperature of the current extruder and the build base in degrees Celsius. |
| recon_lap1 | m104? |
| kthx | m104 is Set extruder temperature. Example M104 S190 |
| recon_lap1 | m101? |
| kthx | m101 is Deprecated. Regarding filament retraction, see M227, M228, M229. |
| macegr | M84? |
| recon_lap1 | ok, I forget the one for the headbed thermistor |
| ccecil | M140? |
| kthx | M140 is set bed temperature. Example M140 S10 |
| recon_lap1 | m141? |
| macegr | kthx: M84 is Stop idle hold. Turns off motors when not being used. The S parameter will set the hold timeout. Example: M84 S10 waits ten seconds after an axis move to shut off motors. M84 S0 disables idle hold (motors are always enabled). |
| kthx | macegr: Okay. |
| macegr | LOL at the example temperature for M140 |
| macegr | does your heatbed have refrigeration |
| ccecil | macegr: yeah...it would never turn on in most cases :) |
| macegr | it might shutdown due to PID setpoint too far from actual |
| ccecil | I think it would set to 10 but never turn the fet on |
| ccecil | pretty sure I have done it before |
| ccecil | well...that and I set it to 0 all the time to turn it off..I think firmware boots to -10 or something like that |
| recon_lap1 | I'm starting to think there is no g-code to get the bed temp |
| airking | My heated bed is not heating, can someone help me? |
| airking | I have an i3V |
| recon_lap1 | airking: what temp is your hotbed at now? |
| ccecil | recon_lap1: to get the bed temp? or to set it? |
| recon_lap1 | ccecil: to get it. |
| ccecil | I don't really think it is a gcode related thing...more like a display that runs on the side |
| ccecil | but what do I know :) |
| airking | recon_lap1: 25C |
| airking | recon_lap1: Room temperature |
| macegr | recon_lap1: the M105 command sends both temps back |
| recon_lap1 | airking: and what temp is your hotend at? |
| ccecil | macegr: well...learn something new every day :) |
| airking | recon_lap1: Like 220 |
| recon_lap1 | macegr: so i was right the first time |
| airking | recon_lap1: 225 |
| recon_lap1 | airking: check the wires for the hotbed |
| macegr | recon_lap1: yesh |
| airking | recon_lap1: from RAMPS>bed, or power supply>RAMPS |
| recon_lap1 | airking: both |
| airking | recon_lap1: I just checked them all, they are secure |
| macegr | Depending on firmware, there can be different setups for the FET outputs. extruder, extruder, bed...extruder, fan, bed, etc |
| recon_lap1 | airking: I'm not sure then. maybe you need to enable it in the firmware |
| airking | recon_lap1: My arduino and RAMPS came pre-flashed |
| airking | recon_lap1: When I set it to preheat, it shows the temp it's trying to preheat to on my LCD screen |
| recon_lap1 | airking: does a red light come on , on the ramp board when you set the hotbed temp |
| airking | I have 2 |
| airking | one flashing |
| airking | one solid |
| airking | LED3 is solid |
| airking | and LED4 is flsahing |
| airking | flashing* |
| airking | Those are the labels on the RAMPS for those LED's |
| recon_lap1 | airking: you sort of need to look at the configuration.h file of you firmware |
| recon_lap1 | airking: and the hotbed wires are connected to D8 on the ramps board? |
| airking | recon_lap1: Yes, the wires are connected to D8 |
| airking | recon_lap1: I went to eat real quick, sorry for the delay |
| airking | recon_lap1: And the thermistor is working, so it can't be shorting out the board somehow |
| airking | recon_lap1: any advice? |
| recon_lap1 | airking: and you 12 v supply going into the 11amp power input? |
| airking | recon_lap1: Yep, it's 12V@20A |
| ccecil | merkur2k: RoyOnWheels|MTW Where were you guys last night? :) http://www.khq.com/story/25849505/woman-sees-drone-peeping-into-her-apartment-window |
| recon_lap1 | send the g-code M140 s50 |
| airking | recon_lap1: Me? |
| recon_lap1 | airking: yes, send M140 S50 and watch for leds changing. keep an eye on the extruder temp as well |
| recon_lap1 | airking: reset the printer first |
| airking | recon_lap1: just did |
| recon_lap1 | airking: anything change? |
| airking | recon_lap1: hang on, making a gcode file. |
| recon_lap1 | airking: are you using pronterface? |
| airking | recon_lap1: Nope, just the SD card |
| airking | recon_lap1: couldn't get pronterface to connect |
| recon_lap1 | airking: then just use the menu and set the hotbed temp to 50c |
| airking | kk |
| recon_lap1 | airking: control->temps->hotbed |
| airking | recon_lap1: Just rebooting the printer again |
| airking | recon_lap1: Not doing anything |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | ccecil we own no drone |
| recon_lap1 | airking: set the hotbed back to 0 , and set the hotend to 50c, just to test that it's working |
| airking | recon_lap1: Extruder is heating |
| airking | Let me try and heat the heatbed, and check the voltage going to it |
| airking | with a voltmeter |
| airking | is that a good idea? |
| recon_lap1 | airking: power down the printer, disconnect the d8 wires and measure the resistance of the hotbed |
| airking | recon_lap1: errr, I'm not entirely sure how to measure resistance |
| airking | that's in ohms right? |
| recon_lap1 | airking: correct, ohms |
| airking | right o |
| airking | on it not |
| airking | now* |
| ccecil | RoyOnWheels|MTW: that is what they all say :) |
| airking | recon_lap1: 1.1 |
| recon_lap1 | airking: thats correct. I'm out of easily checked ideas |
| airking | power it up anc check voltage? |
| airking | and then check firmware? |
| recon_lap1 | airking: if it was getting voltage it would be getting hot |
| airking | but I feel like if I can change it with my lcd screen it's not the firmware |
| airking | How do I even go about checking the firmware? |
| recon_lap1 | airking: ask your vendor for the source code |
| airking | recon_lap1: it's marlin |
| airking | recon_lap1: I have a prusa i3V |
| airking | from makerfarm |
| recon_lap1 | airking: yes, but how is it set up, you need the source code. I bet they have the source code on their web site |
| crispy1 | good evening #reprap |
| crispy1 | kthx tell mutley_ Got tracking info, thanks for shipping :D |
| kthx | crispy1: I'll pass that on when mutley_ is around. |
| crispy1 | kthx tell crunch got your shipment |
| kthx | crispy1: I'll pass that on when crunch is around. |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | \0/ |
| crunch | im here |
| kthx | crunch: 23 sec ago <crispy1> tell crunch got your shipment |
| crispy1 | ohai |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | tracking ! |
| airking | kthx tell airking Ur a fegat |
| kthx | airking: I'll pass that on when airking is around. |
| airking | lol |
| kthx | airking: 6 sec ago <airking> tell airking Ur a fegat |
| airking | recon_lap1: I found a 91Mb files called RAMPS.zip, that sound right? |
| shaun4133 | i need a portable sirconditioner |
| recon_lap1 | airking: open it and look |
| airking | there is a bunch of stuff in here |
| recon_lap1 | is there a configuration.h |
| airking | uhhh |
| airking | There is "arduino0022 PrintrBoard" "Marlin Garphical LCD" Marlin RAMPS EPCOS i3 6inch, MARLIN RAMPS EPCOS i38, and then a bunch of .inf and .gcode files |
| airking | I'm assuming "Marlin-Graphical LCD" is the one we want |
| airking | In there there is only one folder "Marlin-Marlin_v1" |
| airking | and then in "Marlin", I see a configuration.h |
| airking | and Configuration_adv.h |
| recon_lap1 | airking: paste bin configuration.h , maybe we can see if there is anything setup wrong |
| airking | recon_lap1: http://pastebin.com/X9j6ABBz |
| crispy1 | so what's everyone printing tonight |
| airking | nothing |
| airking | absolutely nothing |
| crispy1 | me too |
| airking | because I have a non working heatbed |
| crispy1 | well one of my machines is printing something but it's 10 mi away |
| crispy1 | we'll see how it came out tomorrow morning |
| shaun4133 | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHWFHWFHWOIHQOIWVE |
| shaun4133 | VVPIWEHVWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| crispy1 | hi shaun413 back to your oringinal nick I see |
| recon_lap1 | airking: that look correct to me. sort of leaves the mosfet and the fuse. unless one of the other things you checked is wrong |
| shaun4133 | I dont care crispy1 |
| crispy1 | shaun413, what's the matter |
| shaun4133 | everything |
| crispy1 | :-( |
| airking | recon_lap1: So my ramps is bad |
| crispy1 | shaun4133, could be worse, you could be in somalia |
| shaun4133 | i wish |
| shaun4133 | thye could kill me |
| recon_lap1 | airking: not sure, but we looked at the simple things |
| airking | recon_lap1: is there anyting I can check/do to confirm/refute that? |
| Auzze | g'day all |
| recon_lap1 | airking: you need someone who know ramps better than me to check |
| shaun4133 | bad day Auzze |
| macegr | airking: There are many things that you could have configured wrong |
| recon_lap1 | airking: but never hurts to check the wires again |
| shaun4133 | like every day |
| macegr | I would recommend starting from the beginning and following all the setup steps for the i3v |
| Auzze | shaun413 whats the matter? |
| shaun4133 | LOL |
| shaun4133 | my entire family fricken hates me |
| shaun4133 | and im done with the stress |
| Auzze | move out |
| shaun4133 | i cant |
| shaun4133 | no money |
| Auzze | get a loan and move it at the school |
| airking | So, tbh, not happy with makerfarm so far |
| shaun4133 | nope |
| shaun4133 | cant |
| recon_lap1 | shaun4133 I doubt your family hates you. unless you been doing really bad stuff to them |
| shaun4133 | No they do |
| recon_lap1 | airking: makerfarm do make good printers. |
| Auzze | shaun413 only you can change your life (H) |
| shaun4133 | they are irrational narcisists |
| recon_lap1 | shaun4133, funny thing is thats how i'd describe you, you sure you not projecting? |
| shaun4133 | i am not |
| shaun4133 | not at all |
| Auzze | What they said no to you again and you are having a pussspit |
| shaun4133 | fu |
| airking | recon_lap1: My kit came short 5 m3 nuts, 2 of my plsatic parts were warped, and now my RAMPS may be broken. Also, the parts that he shipped have not yet arrived, USPS says that it's out for delivery, but in a city that's an hour and a half away. |
| shaun4133 | you think im a fricken child |
| airking | recon_lap1: When I told him about my warped parts and missing nuts, he said he would shit replacements |
| recon_lap1 | airking: really? thats bad form. |
| airking | ship* |
| recon_lap1 | lol |
| shaun4133 | imdone |
| joem_ | out of context.... |
| shaun4133 | you are |
| airking | kthx tell kthx tell kthx lol |
| kthx | airking: I'll pass that on when kthx is around. |
| recon_lap1 | airking: did a led come on when you set the hotbed temp ? |
| airking | recon_lap1: Let me check |
| joem_ | my 300mm / 12" diameter heated bed gets up to 110 deg c in less than 2 minutes |
| mattwj2002 | hi all :) |
| airking | recon_lap1: LED3 blinks rapidly and I hear a clicking noise |
| mattwj2002 | I have a TV that per the Internet doesn't exist |
| mattwj2002 | :P |
| recon_lap1 | airking: really, should not do that, might be worth checking for shorts |
| joem_ | nice, non-existant tv shows probably still plays new epsides of firefly |
| recon_lap1 | airking: I'd power down |
| mattwj2002 | lol |
| crispy1 | joem_, ouch, too soon |
| macegr | parallel universe TV |
| mattwj2002 | O.o |
| Auzze | hey mattwj2002 |
| mattwj2002 | Auzze my friend |
| mattwj2002 | :D |
| airking | recon_lap1: the clicking is not coming from RAMPS |
| joem_ | heh |
| mattwj2002 | I have a thought of a design |
| macegr | IRC is a portal to alternate universes, netsplits are when they have to route around a universe getting destroyed |
| airking | recon_lap1: It's from the extruder fan, I think |
| joem_ | my name is joss |
| mattwj2002 | it is so simple but so hard to draw in 3D |
| mattwj2002 | :( |
| joem_ | joss is short for joseph |
| recon_lap1 | airking: take a picture of your ramps and upload it, sounds like you got you fan wired to your hotbed |
| airking | recon, doubt it |
| airking | I've triple and quadruple checked my wiring |
| Eldin | assuming I don't have Kapton tape, what are people's opinions on the best way to get ABS to adhere to the bed? |
| pwillard | let us check |
| recon_lap1 | airking: like the way you checked your endstops? |
| mattwj2002 | maybe I should look at thingiverse before I spend too much time on it |
| mattwj2002 | :) |
| Auzze | mattwj2002 you should |
| recon_lap1 | anyway, upload that picture |
| airking | recon_lap1: My endstops work fine? |
| Auzze | airking whats the problem?? |
| mattwj2002 | Auzze: do you have f connectors on TVs in Australia? |
| mattwj2002 | or do you guys have more the British style? |
| recon_lap1 | airking: sry, confusing you with BubbaP_ |
| Auzze | I think we use a bnc push on type |
| mattwj2002 | oh okay |
| airking | recon_lap1: uploading picture now. The quality is going to be pretty bad though |
| recon_lap1 | Auzze: airking hotbed is not heating. I'm thinking his fan is wired to the hotbed connections |
| reifsnyderb | seen philc? |
| kthx | PhilC was last seen in #reprap 1 week 2 days ago saying '_especially_ _bad_ _considering_ _that_ _the_ _z_-_axis_ _is_ _a_ _screw_ _system_'. |
| reifsnyderb | seen nobody? |
| kthx | Sorry, I haven't seen nobody. |
| reifsnyderb | seen myself? |
| kthx | myself was last seen in #reprap 8 months 1 week ago saying '_Split_ _it_ _up_ _so_ _the_ _bed_ _heater_, _the_ _hotend_ _heater_, _and_ _the_ _electronics_, _can_ _all_ _run_ _from_ _separate_ _supplies_ _if_ _needed_. _make_ _it_ _easy_ _to_ _combine_ _them_ _if_ _you_ _have_ _a_ _single_ _beefy_ _supply_, _but_ _also_ _easy_ _to_ _run_ _each_ _from_ _a_ _separate_ _supply_ _if_ _that_'_s_ _what_'_s_ _handy_.'. |
| reifsnyderb | botsmack! |
| kthx | OUCH! |
| Auzze | recon_lap1 does he have the thinistor connected?? |
| airking | recon_lap1: http://imgur.com/yra0hRA and http://imgur.com/fAly5o4 |
| recon_lap1 | Auzze: yep, and reporting the correct temp, his hotend is working too |
| shaun4133 | hello reid |
| shaun4133 | reifsnyderb, |
| shaun4133 | hows your perfect life? |
| Auzze | has he got it connected to the corect place |
| mattwj2002 | okay guys |
| mattwj2002 | so this is an F connector |
| mattwj2002 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector#mediaviewer/File:F_Connector_Side.jpg |
| recon_lap1 | airking: what type of fan have you connected? |
| mattwj2002 | I just want something I can put over this connector to make it easier to thread on :) |
| Auzze | airking plug the hetbed into the hotend and test.. |
| airking | recon_lap1: A little small one, it's for the hotend |
| Auzze | on the board |
| airking | It's a j-head |
| recon_lap1 | airking: does it come on when you heat the hotend? |
| airking | No |
| airking | oh |
| airking | wait |
| airking | hang on |
| airking | recon_lap1: No |
| shaun4133 | i said hello reifsnyderb |
| shaun4133 | its polite to say hello back |
| airking | There is a setting called "PreHeat ABS", it comes on when I use that |
| airking | It sets the extruder to 225 and the bed to 100 |
| airking | but the bed doesn't heat so :/ |
| recon_lap1 | airking: reset the printer, disconnect the fan, try head the bed again, see if that led blinks , power down |
| recon_lap1 | try heat* |
| recon_lap1 | airking: report back |
| airking | recon_lap1: LED3 blinks |
| Jay_ | hi everyone |
| Jay_ | hows it goin |
| mattwj2002 | hey Jay_ |
| mattwj2002 | I am going to try something scary |
| Jay_ | clearin out a jam |
| mattwj2002 | I am going to design something O.o |
| Jay_ | 3rd on since yesterday |
| Jay_ | keeps jammin while trying to print a set of 4 bar clamps for a prusa i3 i am planning to build |
| Auzze | Jay_ you have a fan on the top of you hotend |
| airking | recon_lap1: Colin responded with "I would try to upload the firmware that is on page 31 of the i3v guide and see if that fixes the heat bed issue. I had one earlier today where for some reason the firmware had set the heat bed to d9 which is incapable of powering the heat bed. Uploading the firmware again will move it back to d8 which can power the heat bed." |
| Jay_ | its a little above and blowing down on it from an angle its the simple makers model 2014 |
| airking | recon_lap1: Where do I go from here? |
| recon_lap1 | airking: ok, upload the firmware |
| mattwj2002 | hmmm |
| airking | recon_lap1: errr, how? |
| mattwj2002 | now I just need to figure out how to draw a hexagon |
| recon_lap1 | airking: download arduino IDE , unzip that firmware on page 31 , compile and upload it to the ramps |
| Jay_ | the fan is there but the shroud design that they have linked for it will not work so its just the open fan |
| airking | recon_lap1: how do I use the arduino IDE, I've never done it before |
| reifsnyderb | seen crunch? |
| kthx | crunch was last seen in #smoothieware 45 min 10 sec ago saying '_fart_'. |
| recon_lap1 | airking: http://reprap.org/wiki/Marlin#Configuring_and_compilation: |
| mattwj2002 | freecad? |
| kthx | freecad is a FOSS CAD program largely written in and extensible with Python. It has a full GUI, plus the ability to program your models in full object-oriented code. https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/free-cad/index.php?title=Main_Page FreeCAD Scripting Tutorial is: http://kludgineering.com/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Getting+Started+with+FreeCAD+scripting |
| mattwj2002 | does anyone like freecad? |
| Jay_ | on the plus side im gettin better at fixin the jams lol |
| mattwj2002 | Jay_ is it fixed? |
| mattwj2002 | sorry kind of fading in and out |
| recon_lap1 | Jay_: what hotend? |
| Jay_ | i havent put the hot end back in yet but i heated it up enough to pull the jam free with a pair of needle nose |
| airking | recon_lap1: So I followed those instrcutions, and the compiler threw some errors |
| airking | how can I pastebin them? |
| recon_lap1 | airking: ctrl-c should work |
| reifsnyderb | Jay_: Are you using a J-Head and trying to print with pla? |
| airking | recon_lap1: It did not |
| mattwj2002 | what license do you guys like? |
| Jay_ | its whatever the stock hot end from printrbot |
| airking | recon_lap1: Had to hit it twice, here http://pastebin.com/LsttZKCP |
| Auzze | DesignSpark Mechanical? |
| Auzze | mattwj2002 try DesignSpark Mechanical 1.0 easy to learn and sinply to understand |
| reifsnyderb | Jay_: Maybe the ubis? Printing with PLA requires cooling. But, I've never looked at an ubis. (Maybe I should add it to my collection? :-) ) |
| mattwj2002 | thanks Auzze |
| Jay_ | idk im lookin at the kit all it says is aluminum extruder still looking but yea its pla |
| mattwj2002 | Auzze is DesignSpark Mechanical free? |
| shaun4133 | hello reifsnyderb |
| shaun4133 | ignoring me i see |
| Auzze | mattwj2002 very free, http://www.rs-online.com/designspark/electronics/eng/page/mechanical |
| mattwj2002 | thank you sir! |
| mattwj2002 | sweet it is downloading at 4 MB/s MB not Mb |
| mattwj2002 | :) |
| recon_lap1 | airking: try this http://pastebin.com/VzBkWq4m |
| Jay_ | idk ill be back in a bit gnna drop this down put the extruder back in and re calibrate it |
| recon_lap1 | airking: or maybe get a uptodade copy of marlin |
| mattwj2002 | Auzze this isn't a virus is it? |
| mattwj2002 | :P |
| Jay_ | maybe when i come back you guys might give me some input on maybe a diferent model that may be easier to print, im trying to get away from this 4x4 build also i already have a printrbot heated bed and thermister that im not using |
| recon_lap1 | airking: anyways , you into quite an involved process |
| recon_lap1 | airking: and it's getting late |
| Auzze | mattwj2002 a virus... |
| mattwj2002 | yeah |
| recon_lap1 | airking: if you get a upto date copy of marlin you'll have to copy the values from the old configuration.h to the new configuration.h |
| airking | recon_lap1: I have no idea what this means |
| Auzze | mattwj2002 don't be silly.. |
| airking | this pastebin is super confusing |
| mattwj2002 | sorry :( |
| recon_lap1 | airking: I know, thats why it's an involved process |
| mattwj2002 | Auzze: I had a date on Saturday night |
| Auzze | mattwj2002 a date, whats that |
| airking | I give up for the night |
| airking | I'll pick it up tomorrow |
| mattwj2002 | you pick up a nice lady |
| mattwj2002 | you go to a movie and a dinner |
| mattwj2002 | and then you take her back home |
| Auzze | mattwj2002 i'm 32 years married, i think the wife would be very pissed if i picked up a girl |
| mattwj2002 | lol |
| mattwj2002 | Auzze: I am 32! |
| mattwj2002 | you could be my dad! |
| recon_lap1 | airking: I'm off as well, g'luck getting it compiled |
| mattwj2002 | lol |
| Auzze | mattwj2002 the only i date I get is shopping day |
| mattwj2002 | oh crap 33 |
| mattwj2002 | in a few months |
| shaun4133 | great |
| shaun4133 | who wants my printers? |
| shaun4133 | im selling |
| shaun4133 | them |
| mastag25 | what |
| mastag25 | rae they |
| shaun4133 | i3 and romax |
| recon_lap1 | I just dont see how the hotbed could be connected to the D9 pins? |
| Auzze | heatbed goes on D8 |
| recon_lap1 | Auzze: yes, but the fan connected to d9 is making noise when the hotbed is powered? |
| recon_lap1 | m140? |
| kthx | m140 is set bed temperature. Example M140 S10 |
| recon_lap1 | well, I don't know. something odd. |
| Auzze | is there 12V on d9 |
| recon_lap1 | Auzze: it's airking's printer. think I'm leaving it alone for tonight |
| Auzze | Ok, I think he gave up for the night |
| Auzze | well I'm off to do some work.. later |
| shaun4133 | hello? |
| Shane_ | i have a reprap mendel, if i want to change the extruder nozzle, for filament that is larger, or a nozzle that is smaller, do I need to change any parts other then the nozzle? I am looking at .2 and .3 nozzles for maybe more percision? |
| recon_lap1 | shaun4133: are you flouncing !!! |
| shaun4133 | idk wtf that means |
| EvRide | ughh, ok, finally... |
| shaunThatNoOneLi | hi |
| EvRide | terramir: uploads larger than 8mb are allowed now, lolol |
| arjenAU | Shane_, well anything you print thereafter needs to be sliced differently. just keep that in mind if you have existing gcode stored. you can't just reprint that with the new hardware. |
| terramir | lol |
| EvRide | apparently some web services hadn't completely restarted when I changed the config |
| arjenAU | Shane_, can you clarify the "filament that is larger" bit? not sure what you mean. |
| terramir | reifsnyderb !!!! woot!!! hi |
| EvRide | uploads up to 480mb are allowed now |
| shaun414 | hello reifsnyderb |
| reifsnyderb | Hi terramir! |
| terramir | evride kk |
| recon_lap1 | o/ g'night |
| shaun414 | SAY HELLO TO ME reid |
| shaun414 | reifsnyderb, |
| shaun414 | WHY WONY YOU |
| terramir | hey reifs how are you? |
| jossm_ | my perimters are pretty, my first layer is pretty... my infill is crap, though, full of holes, sputtering |
| jossm_ | ugly ugly |
| jossm_ | even 100% infill on the top few layers is full of holes |
| arjenAU | Shane_, I'm sure you can write here. |
| jossm_ | bridges don't really work |
| Shane_ | i have 1.75 mm pla and abs, i was going to try some 3.0 mm pla and abs would that require a 3.0 mm nozzle? and should i want to go down in nozzle and get a .2 nozzle, does the size of the filament matter? |
| mastag25 | you will need a nozzle + hotend that accepts 3mm |
| NETio | Going to a 36tooth pulley from a 20tooth would result in dercreased accuracy and faster movements, correct? |
| Artesian | anyone have tips for keeping nylon spooled? |
| Artesian | it just wants to explode all over my printing area |
| Artesian | so springy |
| arjenAU | Shane_, not really, but the slicer needs to know as it needs to control the extruder appropriately - a thicker filament needs less push to deliver more plastic to the heating barrel. |
| NETio | Artesian: It's on a spool right? |
| arjenAU | Shane_, opinions differ, but several bright people reckon that 3mm filament works just fine even for pretty high precision work. |
| terramir | reifsnyderb: I printed this the other day :p for a prusa 2 no cracks pretty good :p http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:371052 |
| kthx | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:371052 => => 0 comments, 8 IRC mentions |
| arjenAU | Shane_, in your case, the really important bit is to check that your heating barrel can actually take 3mm, if it's been using 1.75. it mustn't be too narrow. |
| NETio | Shane_: Understand that a 0.2mm nozzle will be very, very hard to setup properly |
| Shane_ | and what about smaller nozzles? do they deliver any specific performance advantages? |
| terramir | 0.2 nozzle who came up with that nut job idea 0.25 is almost impossible any lower than that is nutz |
| NETio | Shane_: I print 0.08mm layers fine with a 0.4mm nozzle. http://imgur.com/a/oQAPB |
| arjenAU | NETio, haven't done it myself but 0.3 doesn't appear to be an issue, given a decent extruder. |
| reifsnyderb | terramir: Looks pretty good! |
| Shane_ | wow your print is so beautiful |
| NETio | And if you've already invested in 1.75mm hotend and extruder why bother with changing? |
| arjenAU | Shane_, in theory a smaller nozzle will give you more precision. on the downside it'll be slower to print anything. it's always a trade-off. |
| Shane_ | I am just looking to optimize, not sure which areas I can gain performance, my prints definitely do not look that solid yet! |
| mastag25 | wtf |
| arjenAU | Shane_, so just to get things clear, what is your current nozzle size? |
| mastag25 | just started a print |
| mastag25 | did a couple layers |
| Shane_ | 1.75 |
| mastag25 | then the whole unit powered down |
| arjenAU | Shane_, no you're confusing filament diameter with nozzle diameter |
| NETio | Shane_: That was done with 1.75mm ABS filament through a 0.4mm nozzle on an E3D v5 hotend driven by a direct drive bowden extruder |
| Shane_ | that is some topdoge work |
| terramir | NETio: yes decreased accuracy and faster movements but at 16x microstepping a 16 tooth gt2 for example has a positional accuracy of 0.01mm the outflow from the extruder won't be that accurate so anything over 16 with gt2 is overkill |
| NETio | If you want to go to a smaller nozzle that's fine, but understand it won't fix any existing print issues, in fact it will probably magnify any errors and make them more apparent |
| terramir | wait a min |
| terramir | no otherway around |
| NETio | terramir: I'm trying to find 20tooth GT2 pulleys on amazon, can only find them from China or for like $15 each |
| terramir | smaller teeth smaller diameter one rotation of motor |
| NETio | Yeah, I know that |
| NETio | I'm just thinking about the pratical differences between a 20tooth and a 32tooth |
| shaun414 | i want a cat |
| terramir | nah 36 teeth will be faster |
| robotustra_ | the question |
| NETio | or 36 I think, not 32 |
| shaun414 | anyone here have a cat |
| terramir | 16 teeth more accuarte |
| robotustra_ | do I need a layer fun for ABS? |
| terramir | smaller diameter |
| terramir | more accuarcy slower print |
| terramir | my bot uses 16gft2 |
| Computer_Barf | Netio: do you have any pics of your nylon prints? |
| terramir | gt2 |
| NETio | Computer_Barf: Yeah, hold on |
| terramir | means 1/100 of a mm per step |
| terramir | calibration |
| terramir | calibration? |
| kthx | calibration is http://youtu.be/wAL9d7FgInk and is also http://calculator.josefprusa.cz/ and is also http://reprap.org/wiki/Calibration and http://reprap.org/wiki/Triffid_Hunter%27s_Calibration_Guide and http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5573 and is also https://sites.google.com/site/repraplogphase/calibration-of-your-reprap |
| NETio | Computer_Barf: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74222499/Photo%20Mar%2010%2C%2011%2003%2008%20PM.jpg |
| Computer_Barf | is nylon any good for printer parts or it it too flexible> |
| Computer_Barf | ? |
| Computer_Barf | purty |
| shaun414 | no one has a cat? |
| NETio | Computer_Barf: Another one. Both pics are of a vase straight off the printer. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74222499/Photo%20Mar%2010%2C%2011%2003%2021%20PM.jpg |
| Computer_Barf | there are three cats living in my house |
| Computer_Barf | I'll fedex you one if you want. |
| NETio | shaun414: I like dogs, in general. Cats are ok, just kind of solitary which can be nice |
| shaun414 | i just want some sort of friend |
| shaun414 | so i think a cat would be good |
| terramir | NETio: 36 is faster 44.44 steps per mm, as the teeth decrease the accuracy increases, but the print will slow down |
| mastag25 | fucking weirdest shit |
| mastag25 | it just rebooted |
| NETio | But I enjoy the unconditional love of a dog. Cats kind of have a "F*** All Humans" attitude, not a good companion |
| Computer_Barf | I have a half chow chow / Pomeranian and an Alaskan Malamute |
| shaun414 | dogs are ok |
| Shane_ | when i read my literature on my printer, it says nozzle diameter 3mm/1.75mm - print accuracy 0.1-0.2 - is there any other way for me to discover the actual nozzle size? |
| shaun414 | but they are dumb |
| NETio | I disagree |
| shaun414 | well |
| Computer_Barf | UHH |
| shaun414 | if its a smart dog |
| NETio | My labrador retriever knows far more than any cat |
| shaun414 | and not some scatty jumping dog |
| Computer_Barf | my malamute is smarter then all three of our cats combined |
| terramir | this is why I choose gt2 16 , slower more accurate prints |
| shaun414 | id need a small dog |
| NETio | They don't use cats for bomb sniffing, handicapped assistance, etc. |
| shaun414 | true |
| shaun414 | I love those dogs |
| NETio | Cats aren't dumb, just not social and just not very willing to be taught things by people |
| shaun414 | idk where to get onbe |
| Computer_Barf | malamute are known to chase down and kill a deer |
| shaun414 | one |
| shaun414 | what dogs are the best |
| shaun414 | to train |
| shaun414 | to be perfect |
| Shane_ | get a wolf, that is a doge but better |
| Computer_Barf | well |
| NETio | shaun414: Training dogs is a lot of work |
| shaun414 | good |
| shaun414 | i need something to do |
| Computer_Barf | I've actually known ppl with wolves in colorado, if you raise a wolf you HAVE to know how to be dominent and you halve to keep alpha to it. |
| mastag25 | bro |
| mastag25 | im ALPHA |
| mastag25 | not now chief |
| NETio | shaun414: You can pretty much get a cat and give it a box to shit in and a bowl of food and water. Replinish food and water regularly and remove detritus from box and give it a few toys to bat around from time to time and it's set for life |
| mastag25 | im in the fucking zone |
| shaun414 | i want a dog |
| mastag25 | my cats are too affectionate |
| mastag25 | they want love all the time =/ |
| shaun414 | i want something to love me |
| mastag25 | and one purrs when you look at it |
| Computer_Barf | If your going to raise a wolf you need to raise something like a huskey or malamute or a wolf mix first. A wolf that isn't raised right can become a real problem. |
| mastag25 | im going to try and record with my camera and live stream my next print |
| mastag25 | actually that seems kinda pointless heh |
| NETio | cats do appreciate petting and such, but I feel like at that point you're simply providing a service to them that they enjoy. It's not true love IMO. Although I have seen cats that love their owner and are fiercly loyal to their owner. But the majority of cats, IME, are not "loyal" like dogs |
| mastag25 | ill just save the recording im livestreaming |
| shaun414 | idk |
| shaun414 | i like dogs |
| mastag25 | what about that cat the saved the kid |
| mastag25 | it scared off the dog that was attacking the child |
| shaun414 | what about the cat that attacked the family |
| shaun414 | and yehy called the cops |
| shaun414 | trapped in the bathroom |
| mastag25 | lolol |
| mastag25 | yea |
| mastag25 | LOL |
| mastag25 | i remember that |
| mastag25 | i think it was on tv |
| shaun414 | yes |
| Computer_Barf | I made Tteokbokki tonight for dinner NOM NOM |
| mastag25 | what is that |
| shaun414 | yay |
| Computer_Barf | korean thick rice noodle spicy kinda dish |
| Computer_Barf | http://www.maangchi.com/recipe/ddukbokkie |
| Computer_Barf | Korean snacks and comfort food is the reals |
| Artesian | how do I make a print slow down without activating cooling? |
| Artesian | I'm printing taulman 645 nylon |
| Artesian | tough to get the retract numbers right :( |
| Computer_Barf | i found out about Tteokbokki from the korean snack chips , which are also good |
| Computer_Barf | https://www.google.com/search?q=korean+rice+noodle+t&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=eex&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=w-OoU8uuFKznsATS9YHQCA&ved=0CBwQsAQ&biw=959&bih=875#channel=fs&q=Ttaebokki+chips&safe=off&tbm=isch&imgdii=_ |
| mastag25 | i went to bed and you went for a snack |
| mastag25 | i get home you are eating more snacks |
| mastag25 | lol |
| Computer_Barf | lol |
| Computer_Barf | well technically, im eating a meal, that is the original, of a snack i am referring to. |
| Computer_Barf | I found out about the meal, from the snack. The snack impersonates the meal. They are both excellent. |
| Computer_Barf | if you do not believe I have other white dudes that will affirm my position. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d9AZ0KXoV4 |
| mastag25 | lol |
| mastag25 | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ez3d-phoenix-3d-printing |
| mastag25 | starting print |
| mastag25 | :O |
| mastag25 | huge fail |
| mastag25 | LOL |
| mastag25 | filament was stuck on spool |
| Computer_Barf | He's totaly wrong about the spicyness in his video, The snacks start off seeming just sweet, by the time you finish the bag your mouth is burning. |
| mastag25 | take 2 >_> |
| mmorning_ | clog? |
| kthx | clog is http://reprap.org/wiki/Clog and is also http://youtu.be/pomMbceEI7I |
| shaun414 | hello |
| Computer_Barf | so mastag25: I have lots of korean snacks to recommend so find your closest korean supermarket and I will point everyone with a 3d printer to endless awsome korean snacks. Maybe I start a cooking show called: Whitie invades YOUR culture! |
| mastag25 | :o |
| shaun414 | anyone want to buy me some fish |
| shaun414 | ? |
| shaun414 | :p |
| shaun414 | :/ |
| SystemsGuy2 | shaun413 - I'm sitting on the beach - want me to bring you a fish? |
| mastag25 | this print is already starting badly |
| mastag25 | sigh |
| SystemsGuy2 | kthx tell ccecil the sand is warm. :) |
| kthx | SystemsGuy2: I'll pass that on when ccecil is around. |
| shaun414 | no |
| shaun414 | aquarium fish |
| shaun414 | not beach fish |
| SystemsGuy2 | where do you think aquarium fish come from shaun414? :) |
| shaun414 | freshwater |
| SystemsGuy2 | pffffft |
| SystemsGuy2 | get a real aquarium |
| shaun414 | fu |
| SystemsGuy2 | byte me shaun413 :) |
| shaun414 | no |
| Computer_Barf | start an aquaponics setup |
| shaun414 | i cant afford |
| Computer_Barf | well you have a printer |
| shaun414 | ... |
| Computer_Barf | you essentially would just need an acceptable bed and pump |
| shaun414 | doesnt mean anyhting |
| shaun414 | printer cant do anything for that |
| shaun414 | and lighting LOL |
| shaun414 | you are leaving the most expenive part out |
| Computer_Barf | i mean a 55 gallon drum is like 15 bucks |
| Computer_Barf | and then you need the right kind of values which you could print |
| Computer_Barf | and you could print brackets for a frame and use something cheap and free as the structure work |
| Computer_Barf | and why lights.. Put it outside |
| SystemsGuy2 | shaun414 needs something that costs less than a Big Mac or he's not interested. |
| mastag25 | dat live stream up |
| shaun414 | . |
| shaun414 | i just have no money |
| Computer_Barf | sounds like he sould be more concerned with capital equipment than spending on general consumption |
| Computer_Barf | produce something people want, and devise a method for producing it in bulk. |
| shaun414 | ? |
| Computer_Barf | well thats were money comes from. |
| Computer_Barf | you produce a good or service. |
| SystemsGuy2 | shaun414's a firm believer in having it given to him on a silver platter. |
| shaun414 | no im no |
| Computer_Barf | or at least, that's how you produce material wealth, which is worth money. |
| shaun414 | im not given anything |
| shaun414 | not even love |
| SystemsGuy2 | who pays for your Intertubes shaun414? |
| shaun414 | dunnoi |
| shaun414 | the people who dont like me |
| SystemsGuy2 | umm hmmm. Mom's gonna be pissed you forgot her !:) |
| shaun414 | eh |
| shaun414 | f her |
| SystemsGuy2 | lol |
| Computer_Barf | oh i asked this before but no one responded.. Is nylon prints acceptable material for structural printer parts? |
| SystemsGuy2 | Computer_Barf - yes "but". It's a challenge to print a lot of parts without warping in Nylon. |
| SystemsGuy2 | Computer_Barf - I printed a mini kossel delta in Taulman 618, but the bottom verticies (motor mounts) warped badly. |
| Computer_Barf | humm. sounds not as friendly as would be best |
| mattwj2002 | done |
| mattwj2002 | :D |
| mattwj2002 | my part is designed and it is even in openscad |
| mattwj2002 | :) |
| Gadzook8 | Hey, I have a question about the ramps 1.4 board, can anybody help me? |
| mattwj2002 | does anyone know anything about part licensing? |
| SystemsGuy2 | maybe Gadzook8 - what's the question? |
| Gadzook8 | Thanks so much SystemsGuy2, ok, so my question is, I have a ramps 1.4 board with an arduino mega 2560, and I put Main on the arduino, and then plugged in 1 stepper controler, and 4 pin 12v connecter fram a atx powersupply into the ramps, and finally one steeper motor into the board, but then i tryed to home the motor useing pronterface (just to see that it worked) but then the stepper junt vibrated for a bit and stopped, do you have an |
| SystemsGuy2 | Gadzook8 - you should take a look at the following links. Chances are the current settings on your drivers are not correct for your stepper. |
| SystemsGuy2 | pots? |
| kthx | pots is see pot |
| SystemsGuy2 | pot? |
| kthx | pot is http://reprap.org/wiki/Gen7_Board_1.4.1#Adjusting_the_Pololus.2FStepSticks and is also the potentiometer on the stepper drivers http://reprap.org/wiki/Sanguinololu#Pololu_drivers_current_limit_configuration https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96201881/pot%20001.JPG and is also http://reprap.org/wiki/Pololu_stepper_driver_board#Tuning_motor_current and is also legal in Colorado |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | SystemsGuy2 ... sounds like a bad sequel ;P |
| Gadzook8 | Thank you so much, I aprechiate it |
| Gadzook8 | Incidentally im from colorado |
| Artesian | anyone know how to mod a bowden hotend to become direct? |
| SystemsGuy2 | RoyOnWheels|MTW - I'm on the beach in Mexico - more link a bad echo :) |
| Artesian | or suggest a good 1.75mm hotend? |
| Artesian | I have 5 3mm hotends but nothing for 1.75 filaments |
| SystemsGuy2 | Artesian - hard to beat a j-head if you print PLA :) |
| Artesian | I'm going to print high temperature exotics with it |
| Artesian | and I broke my jhead already :p |
| Artesian | nylon, PET, etc etc |
| SystemsGuy | stick with 3mm :) |
| Artesian | I am personally, but sometimes the experimental stuff only comes in 1.75mm varieties |
| mattwj2002 | anyone want to see my thingy? |
| SystemsGuy | I don't know of a proven 1.75mm high temp hotend. |
| SystemsGuy | you could always try one of the qu-bd's, but I've not seen or heard much on theirs lately Artesian |
| mattwj2002 | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:372850 |
| kthx | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:372850 => => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| mattwj2002 | please any input would be greatly appreciated |
| Artesian | ah thanks, I'll take a look |
| MattyMatt | isn't prusanozzle 1.75mm? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | no 3mm |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | he didn't want challenge of 1.75 |
| shaun414 | helloi people |
| shaun414 | how are you guys |
| SystemsGuy | where's prusa been hiding RoyOnWheels|MTW? |
| MattyMatt | how about a makergear one? maybe with a fan at the top to condition the heatzone to modern taste? |
| MattyMatt | and to keep the ptfe intact |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | SystemsGuy no idea, probably good busy |
| SystemsGuy | RoyOnWheels|MTW - hope so :P |
| MattyMatt | mattwj2002, does that go over the cable from the other end? |
| robotustra_ | http://postimg.org/image/nenitgvnj/ |
| robotustra_ | http://postimg.org/image/vhv7hg2z5/ |
| mattwj2002 | hi mattymatt |
| mattwj2002 | what do you mean? |
| MattyMatt | it looks like there's no way to get it off once bothe ends of the cable are screwed down, assuming they have F connector at both ends |
| mattwj2002 | MattyMatt you keep it on |
| mattwj2002 | :) |
| mattwj2002 | it is suppose to help you with twisting the cable on and off |
| mattwj2002 | give you a little more torque |
| MattyMatt | if it had a slot, and handles like a fawcett, it could be reused |
| mattwj2002 | good point |
| MattyMatt | in a similar vein, the drill bit handles in the More from Hand Tools. I use a tap wrench for that |
| MattyMatt | and they all have wing handles |
| MattyMatt | ah, they aren't yours |
| SystemsGuy | kik at te guy trying to chatch it at 1.40 RoyOnWheels|MTW |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | ? |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | ah |
| RoyOnWheels|MTW | yeah |
| MattyMatt | kijk op het jongen wie leest at half zes in de morgen |
| MattyMatt | ikke ben! |
| MattyMatt | 4.54, meant to say half five but I'm too late for that |
| MattyMatt | NL is 1 hour ahead, but they say half 5 at 4.30 :) |
| MattyMatt | meh, anyway |
| MattyMatt | gm shaun if you're still here |
| MattyMatt | fuck, the battery in these $47 tabs is dreadful. it's gone flat twice since I took my pdf to bed |
| MattyMatt | it's a good job this is for mounting permanently on the printer, and not for pdfs :) |
| MattyMatt | the software is already written, although not open source unfortunately |
| MattyMatt | http://www.dietzm.de/gcodesim/ |
| shaun413 | Hi |
| Skrotus | hi |
| MattyMatt | ping shaun |
| shaun413 | Yes |
| shaun413 | What |
| MattyMatt | irc is working, I thought you might like confirmation |
| shaun413 | Not really |
| MattyMatt | I occasionally find myself monologueing to a dead connection |
| MattyMatt | thinking out loud |
| MattyMatt | literally, model M clacky keyb |